RMTs - Team Ruby and Fire Red! *NEED EV HELP*

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    Swampert - Timid
    EV in Special Attack and Special Defense
    Ice Beam
    Surf
    Earthquake
    Rest

    Ludicolo - Lax/Neutral
    EV in Speed and Defense
    Leech Seed
    Hydro Pump
    Toxic
    Giga Drain

    Camerupt - Bold/Neutral
    EV in Special Defense and Defense
    Rock Slide
    Earthquake
    Flamethrower
    Amnesia

    Crobat - ???
    EV in ???
    Fly
    Sludge Bomb
    Confuse Ray
    Mean Look

    Manectric - ????
    EV in ????
    Rain Dance
    Thunder
    HP Water
    Thunderwave/Crunch

    Alakazam - Sassy
    EV in Defense and Special Defense
    Ice Punch/Calm Mind
    Psychic
    Thunder Punch
    Fire Punch

    or

    Gardevoir - ???
    EV in ????
    WoW
    Psychic
    Calm Mind
    Thunderbolt

    Need movesets for my Fire Red team too please!

    Venusaur
    Electabuzz
    Fearow
    Lapras
    Moltres/Arcanine
    ???? - Please gimme a Pokemon for my 6th slot!
     
    Andros said:
    Swampert - Timid
    EV in Special Attack and Special Defense
    Ice Beam
    Surf
    Earthquake
    Rest

    Quiet nature may work better. Swampert doesn't have grear speed anyway. Attacks look good. Maybe more ev's into hp than special defense though.

    Ludicolo - Lax/Neutral
    EV in Speed and Defense
    Leech Seed
    Hydro Pump
    Toxic
    Giga Drain

    Every Ludicolo should have Rain Dance, just to take advantage of its abilities. To me, Ludicolo is tough to make a moveset for because it can be both an annoyer and a special sweeper. Maybe replace giga drain and hydro pump with rain dance and dive, to heal and stall. Instead of speed ev's, put them into hp and defenses. Bold or calm natures are prefered.

    Camerupt - Bold/Neutral
    EV in Special Defense and Defense
    Rock Slide
    Earthquake
    Flamethrower
    Amnesia

    Adamant or Brave nature is prefered, since Camerupt has low speed anyway and its only special attack is a fire one. Attacks look good, Camerupt is just tough to use due to low speed and weakness to water and ground.

    Crobat - ???
    EV in ???
    Fly
    Sludge Bomb
    Confuse Ray
    Mean Look

    nature: adamant or jolly. I like adamant for ingame. Shadowball instead of mean look, Crobat is too light and delicate to be an effective annoyer. EV's in attack and speed only.

    Manectric - ????
    EV in ????
    Rain Dance
    Thunder
    HP Water
    Thunderwave/Crunch

    Modest or timid natures, ev in special attack and speed only. It is very fragile

    Alakazam - Sassy
    EV in Defense and Special Defense
    Ice Punch/Calm Mind
    Psychic
    Thunder Punch
    Fire Punch

    No matter how hard you try, Alakazam will almost never survive a physical attack. It's best to take advantage of its high speed and special attack and put ev's into those and give it a Modest or Timid nature. If you really want to improve its special defense though, then calm nature is best.

    or

    Gardevoir - ???
    EV in ????
    WoW
    Psychic
    Calm Mind
    Thunderbolt

    Personally, I like Gardevoir better just because I have a thing against Alakazam, heh. And Gardevoir is cute. Its attacks are good and standard. Some people like Modest nature, but I like timid, since calm mind will boost special attack and defense anyway. Max out speed and pour remaining evs into special stats.

    I'll let someone else do the fire red team...
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    Kool! Thanx a lot Iveechan! Shall follow your advice! I'm using a Kadabra on Fire Red and I loves Gardevoir so I'll use her instead. BTW, I've always been a fan of your great art! Oh God no! I just rememberd I have Ruby....not Sapphire! Must get it! :( Can you please suggest me a substitute for Ludicolo?
     
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    Well for Venusaur use this.

    Venusaur@Leftovers
    Nature:Jolly
    EVs in: Attack, HP, and Speed
    Leech Seed
    Sludge Bomb
    Earthquake
    Sleep Powder/ Swords Dance

    This should work. I may do more later.

    I'm back.

    Lapras@not really sure, I guess Leftovers/if Rest is used Chesto Berry
    Nature:+ Sp. attk./-Attk
    EVs in:Sp. attk, and HP
    Ice Beam
    T-bolt
    Surf
    Confuse Ray/Rest

    I love Boltbeamers, their awesome! :D
     
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    Swampert: Always a difficult one to balance the EV with:

    Swampert@Leftovers
    EV: 170 Att, 170 Sp Def, 170 Sp Att
    Nature: + Att/Sp Att, - Speed
    Curse/Ice Beam/Toxic
    Brick Break/Ice Beam/Surf
    Earthquake
    Rest

    Ludicolo@Leftovers *Note: Swift Swim
    EV: Speed up to 198, rest in HP, Sp Att, Sp Def
    Nature: + Sp Att, - Att
    Rain Dance
    Surf/Hydro Pump
    Leech Seed
    Ice Beam/Giga Drain/Toxic/Dive

    Camerupt@Quick Claw
    EV: 252 Att, 252 Def, 6 Sp Def
    Nature: + Att, - Sp Def
    Earthquake
    Rock Slide
    Overheat
    Explosion

    Crobat@Lum Berry
    EV: 252 Speed, 252 Att, 6 Def
    Nature: + Speed, - Sp Att
    Aerial Ace
    Sludge Bomb
    HP Fighting
    Shadow Ball

    Manectric@Lum Berry/Quick Claw
    EV: 252 Speed, 252 Sp Att, 6 Sp Def
    Nature: + Sp Att, - Att
    Thunderwave
    Thunderbolt/Thunder
    HP Ice/Grass
    Bite/Quick Attack/Rain Dance

    Let Ludicolo set up the Rain, or do it yourself. Either way, Manectric doesn't have much lastability, so you really need to avoid damage. You can use Bite for the flinch hax (but don't rely on that), Quick Attack for Reversal/Flail users, and HP Ice/Grass for all slower Ground types (anything except Dugtrio). I'd prefer HP Ice for taking on Flygon and other Dragons, just in case you need to.

    Gardevior@Lum/Petaya/Salac Berry
    EV: 252 Sp Att, 252 Speed, 6 Sp Def
    Nature: + Sp Att/Sp Def, - Att
    Calm Mind
    Thunderbolt
    Psychic
    Destiny Bond

    This team is missing a few crucial roles, such as a hazer/pseudohazer. I'd personally give Manectric QA as well.
     
    Didn't anyone see my post edit? I'm playing Ruby therefore I cannot get Ludicolo so I need a suggestion for a different water type.
     
    I don't really notice anything... ever... just wondering, can you trade with yourself? if so, then Kingdra is an all around average guy who's a good rain dancer and only has one weakness. Are you looking for a water type, a grass type, or just a replacement?
     
    Basically just a replacement. I already have a Water type. Might use a Breloom.

    Breloom
    Spore
    Leech Seed
    Sludge Bomb
    Mach Punch/Focus Punch
     
    Iveechan said:
    I don't really notice anything... ever... just wondering, can you trade with yourself? if so, then Kingdra is an all around average guy who's a good rain dancer and only has one weakness.
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    The all around average stat is the problem... with the EV system around, Kingdra's stats are seriously affected and is now in deep trouble. Anyone with all around average stats also got into a lot of trouble due to the EV system, as it pretty much forces you to be either defensive or offensive, not both at once like Kingdra is used to be on GSC.
     
    My most successful team happens to consist of four tanks, but then I always like to be different.
     
    Ya know, my best successful team didn't rely on EVs or Natures. I had full offensive attacks and power up attacks eg, Bulk Up.
     
    Most likely, an obvious indication that your opponent didn't EV train either, or is even, some random kiddo on the street... it's impossible for a well EV trained team to lose to one without nature or EV, unless it's NU vs mass legends, then the legends can just overwhelm aimlessly without EVs at all.
     
    Eh? Oh wait a minute! D'oh! I forgot to say that this is an in-game team! No Pokemon fans round my area to battle! Just my sis really and we can't link my Fire Red to my Ruby yet cos I haven't got the Ruby and Sapphire plates. Heck I don't even have 4 badges yet! But I have just arrived in Celadon City. :D
     
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