rate my very first team

[c_dog]

i just started today and i just had my first battle.. and I WON! granted i almost lost.. my electrode and gengar were pretty useless -_-;;

help my team get better please, or teach me how to utilize my talents. thanx a lot.

i like to start with a fast pokemon because whoever attacks first gets an edge early on, which may determine the entire outcome of the battle. so i use:
Electrode@lefties
timid nature(-att, +speed)
hp 129, speed 252, spatt 129
hp grass
substitute
taunt
thunderbolt
-i do not know how to utilize him properly.. but i think he's suppose to be pretty good. he was useless in my first battle though..

Venasaur@lefties
careful nature
hp 129, att 123, def 129, spdef 129
earthquake
leech seed
sleep powder
sludgebomb

blastoise@lefties
bold
hp 252, def 129, spdef 129
haze
ice beam
surf
yawn
-turns out this set is not too great as my blastoise did not have the staying power i had hoped it had.

charizard@lefties <-- so many lefties.. perhaps cheap but oh well
jolly
att 252, sp 252, hp 6
aerial ace <-- thinking rockslide instead
dragon dance
earthquake
overheat
this charizard turned out surprisingly strong. not much staying power but plenty of arsenal.

gengar@choice band
adamant
hp6, att 252, sp 252
brick break
explosion
shadowball
sludgebomb
was also quite useless.. sludgebomb and shawdow ball did some damage but i didn't feel like i used him effectively.

snorlax@lefties
sassy
hp252, def 129, spdef 129
curse
earthquake
rest
shadowball-perhaps my strongest. unluckily he got frozen but he was defrosted by either ho-ho's fire attacks.. or rest.. im not sure which. but he ultimately won the battle for me.

thanx for the input guys.

 

[Alexander the great v2]

This is NetBattle, right?

Electrode: I think thats similar to the late LHs tauntadrode, and it was a very good pogey according to others

Venasaur: I dont use Venasaur, but its got leech seed and sludge bombso it cant be too bad :classic:

Blastoise: Meh, crap set, no offense. Try mirrior coat or counter/ice beam or surf/rapid spin/ice beam or surf

Charazard: @Salac berry. Nice set, but rock slide deffently over aa

Gengar: Crappiest. Set. EVER


Gengar (M) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 240 Atk / 252 Spd / 18 SAtk
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt



Snorlax:Return>Earthquake. ALWAYS.



Nice team

 

[c_dog]

This is NetBattle, right?

Electrode: I think thats similar to the late LHs tauntadrode, and it was a very good pogey according to others

well, i'm just starting to learn how to utilize him i think. very often the opponent enters the battle and they want to set up, and taunt really throws them off. sub breaks too easily though, imo. often i'd just sub and then it breaks when the enemy hits. i like this electrode to a certain extent and hpgrass catches a lot of pokemon by surprise, but i wonder if i can us hp ice instead? you know, so i have an edge over ground types as well as grass.

Venasaur: I dont use Venasaur, but its got leech seed and sludge bombso it cant be too bad :classic:

Blastoise: Meh, crap set, no offense. Try mirrior coat or counter/ice beam or surf/rapid spin/ice beam or surf
so basically just take off yawn and haze for mirror coat and counter should work?

Charazard: @Salac berry. Nice set, but rock slide deffently over aa
i agree =0=;

Gengar: Crappiest. Set. EVER


Gengar (M) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 240 Atk / 252 Spd / 18 SAtk
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt
this set looks promising(a lot more than mine). my gengar was not that bad but choice band bit my *ss a couple times because i couldn't switch my attacks.

Snorlax:Return>Earthquake. ALWAYS.
i know return is a great attack on snorlax.. but snorlax doesn't need to sweep. he has plenty of arsenal and is a great tank. i just though earthquake may serve a purpose as to cover some of his weaknesses(though i guess shadow ball can do some damage against ground types).


Nice team

thanx for your help. i think my team should be much stronger now.

 

[husk1442]

i just started today and i just had my first battle.. and I WON! granted i almost lost.. my electrode and gengar were pretty useless -_-;;

help my team get better please, or teach me how to utilize my talents. thanx a lot.

i like to start with a fast pokemon because whoever attacks first gets an edge early on, which may determine the entire outcome of the battle. so i use:
Electrode@lefties
timid nature(-att, +speed)
hp 129, speed 252, spatt 129
hp grass
substitute
taunt
thunderbolt
-i do not know how to utilize him properly.. but i think he's suppose to be pretty good. he was useless in my first battle though..

Nice but, to make your subs less breakable you mght want to try these EVs out:

EVs: 82 HP / 176 Spd / 252 SAtk


Venasaur@lefties
careful nature
hp 129, att 123, def 129, spdef 129
earthquake
leech seed
sleep powder
sludgebomb


Again Evs are a little shaky

I like this one:

Venusaur (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 252 HP / 162 Def / 96 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Sleep Powder
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Magical Leaf
- Leech Seed

If you like the physical set just switch Modest to Adamant and use those EVs


blastoise@lefties
bold
hp 252, def 129, spdef 129
haze
ice beam
surf
yawn
-turns out this set is not too great as my blastoise did not have the staying power i had hoped it had.

This one works:

Blastoise (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 148 Def / 110 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Surf/Haze
- Mirror Coat
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin


charizard@lefties <-- so many lefties.. perhaps cheap but oh well
jolly
att 252, sp 252, hp 6
aerial ace <-- thinking rockslide instead
dragon dance
earthquake
overheat
this charizard turned out surprisingly strong. not much staying power but plenty of arsenal.

Same object, better set:

Charizard (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 146 Atk / 112 Spd / 252 SAtk
Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
- Belly Drum
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide/ Hidden Power[Flying]
- Overheat


gengar@ choice band
adamant
hp6, att 252, sp 252
brick break
explosion
shadowball
sludgebomb
was also quite useless.. sludgebomb and shawdow ball did some damage but i didn't feel like i used him effectively.

lol WTF, I belive that is a smogon fun set:

Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 136 Atk / 252 Spd / 122 SAtk
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Giga Drain/Ice Punch/Hidden Power[Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt





snorlax@lefties
sassy
hp252, def 129, spdef 129
curse
earthquake
rest
shadowball-perhaps my strongest. unluckily he got frozen but he was defrosted by either ho-ho's fire attacks.. or rest.. im not sure which. but he ultimately won the battle for me.

=/ Hate the Evs but, curselax is more of: what works for you?

return over Earthquake or Shadow Ball. Either way something is going to give you a problem. Either Gengar or Rock Types aregoing to give you a problem so look at your team and choose wisely.

thanx for the input guys.

BTW you need HP: Ice on an Electrode as it doesn't have the SpAtk to take down a Swampert anyway you might as well drop some Salamence.

Jolteon on the other hand can OHKO Salamence after a petaya berry with T-bolt, electrode is less fortunate

 

[Alexander the great v2]

Blastoise (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 68 SAtk / 190 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Counter/Mirrior Coat
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin
- Surf

Thats standered, not too sure bout the evs, tho.

 

[c_dog]

thanx for the feedback husk, it's greatly appreciated. couple things though.. well, i'm not too fond of bellyzard to tell you the truth. when you do belly drum you're pretty much saying "kill me, i'm easy". charizard has crap defense and belly drum only gurantees OHKO. i did give it a try but really.. dang.. there's really no good time to use bellydrum.. never. i think the EV's should be good though so i'm going to try dragon dance with that set.

as for blastoise, when was the last time i needed rapid spin? never.. i think i'll probably fit something else in there.

and with the electrode you suggested a new EV set to boost the sub.. but so far the sub hasn't been any stronger. :S did you mean 252 on SDef instead of SAtt?

 

[HariyamaGuy]

This is NetBattle, right?

What is NetBattle?

 

[husk1442]

thanx for the feedback husk, it's greatly appreciated. couple things though.. well, i'm not too fond of bellyzard to tell you the truth. when you do belly drum you're pretty much saying "kill me, i'm easy". charizard has crap defense and belly drum only gurantees OHKO. i did give it a try but really.. dang.. there's really no good time to use bellydrum.. never. i think the EV's should be good though so i'm going to try dragon dance with that set.

as for blastoise, when was the last time i needed rapid spin? never.. i think i'll probably fit something else in there.

and with the electrode you suggested a new EV set to boost the sub.. but so far the sub hasn't been any stronger. :S did you mean 252 on SDef instead of SAtt?

Well I just wanted to add a little HP but, if the subs are still dying maybe you need a different pokemon for the job.

as for rapin spin, its a must need for the popular move: spikes.

if you find belly drum hard to set up you may want to switch overheat for sub.

sub+belly drum makes your salac berry activate making you faster than most things and giving you an attack that can kill most things. If you do then change the EVS to 146 HP/252 Atk/112 Spd

 

[Chareon]

My suggestion for Gengar:
Gengar@Salac
-Quiet
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Ice Punch
Destiny Bond
Forcus punch is useless, in my oppinion, because you leave yourself open for attack and if you miss, you're gone. You're lucky if you get a hit, if your opponent doesn't take you out before then.

 

[Ice demon]

My suggestion for Gengar:
Gengar@Salac
-Quiet
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Ice Punch
Destiny Bond
Forcus punch is useless, in my oppinion, because you leave yourself open for attack and if you miss, you're gone. You're lucky if you get a hit, if your opponent doesn't take you out before then.

hence substitute is stuck in there.
Focus punch also gets blisseys,regi ice etc on the switch.
If u want to use that set then quiet makes no sense.Use timid @ petaya or modest @ salac
destiny bond works well with Salac

 

[c_dog]

thanks for all the help guys. i've actually been winning most of my battles now. i still don't like the charizard too much.. he's got good speed so he's good for finishing off opponents but he's still missing the attack power to go up against anyone. belly drum hasn't work very well, and the sub which is suppose to buy him a turn to set up belly drum, breaks too easily. the sub allows him to avoid status effects as well, but let's face it.. when someone sees a charizard they're thinking "man, what a noob, OHKO for you" and use thunderbolt or rockslide or something. nobody ever tries to paralyze or put charizard to sleep or poison it or whatever, he's just not worth the extra turn when he can easily be wooped. belly drumming therefore just makes their job easier. seriously if it weren't for sentimental values charizard would not be on my team. i'd probably stick an OU tyranitar or something.

also i decided to drop sub and focus punch on gengar as well. like charizard his sub is useless, and focus punch doesn't do much with his crappy attack, so i just crank up his speed and SAtt and put in psychic and destiny bond. so far it's a lot better as he would kill a couple pokemon before going out with a bang.

as for blastoise.. i'm thinking of dropping rapid spin for counter. i've met some skarms, but really, the spikes hardly annoy me. venasaur can put skarm to sleep and charizard(for once) can finish him off. charizard's flying ability also helps him avoid he spikes, so blastoise, is not really needed. the spikes don't hurt that much anyway as most of my pokemon have lefties so they enter the battle relatively fresh. wasting a move slot for rapid spin on a fairly useless pokemon.. is not worth it. so i'll probably take it off. skarms are overrated, imo, as all they can ever do is spike spike spike, but aside from maybe drill peck and hidden power they don't have much of any aresenal and those attacks are fairly weak, imo.

i also tried a primeape with 291hp with sub and reversal, but after killing one pokemon they bring in tyranitar and sand storm kills him -_-;; it was inspired by the flailing dodrio who i met a couple times

 

[husk1442]

=/ whats your name on netbattle?

 

[c_dog]

my name on netbattle is 3tl1 and i'm usually on the smogon server cuz it has a hella more ppl who are willing to fight me. what's yours?

 

[husk1442]

husk1442 <-- How amazing

so I guess I'll meet you there, possibley