Why does Blissey have so much HP?

OreoMaster

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    That's not only about Blissey! What's your concept on HP? Why do some relatively small Pokemon have tremendous amounts of Hit Points?

    Wigglytuff,Gastrodon,Wobbuffet,Blissey,Drifblim. Their size doesn't justify their sick HP. It's logical to see a Wailord having 544 HP and to be honest you even expect more. It's logical to see a Snorlax with 524 and a Slaking with 504. But they are large. Blissey isn't even 1/10 of Wailord's size and she has the highest HP in the game. Okay so what are your concepts about why these Pokemon have so much HP?

    My opinion(not completely mine) is that they developed their huge HP among years and years of evolution. All of the previously mentioned Pokemon have very low or barely passable defenses. So the only way to survive in the wild was to increase their HP and stamina through the years. They are just soft flesh so they don't have much in terms of defense but nor are they any powerful offensively. So with no offensive or defensive abilities,being completely vulnerable they just increased their HP to unbelievable levels so as to survive the attacks of their predators and run away. Blissey,having the lowest Def,needed to increase their stamina/HP/durability more than anyone else so they did. Gastrodon lost their ancient shell upon evolution(not from Shellos.Just evolution through the years) so in an effort to survive they raised their HP.

    I think it is clear enough. As for the other Pokemon that have both high Def and HP like Hippowdon and Walrein, it's just because of their large size that they have their big HP.

    So can anybody compete 'my' theory?
     
    I dunno. But due to its pitiful defence, 2 close combats could KO it. Thats stupid.
     
    By two Close Combats I assume you mean one.
     
    A Blissey with max defense EVs can take hits just like a max HP Spiritomb and Scizor. Max her HP as well(she doesn't need Sp.Def EVs anyway) and she can withstand a brawl even better.

    And don't make fun of her. Imagine us taking those attacks.
    Close Combat will certainly leave you lying on the ground dead. In real life, after a hard beating you may as well end up in the clinic. Just imagine what would happen if you got beaten up by a Fighting type Pokemon.

    Blissey can take a Brave Bird from Swellow.

    Blissey can take an Aqua Tail from Garchomp, Dragonite,Swampert etc I bet we would slump to the ground with at least a broken spine if not dead.

    Blissey can take a Stone Edge from Armaldo(pretty strong with a base 125 Att and Stab) . We would undoubtedly get killed. They are stones not pillows you know.

    Blissey can take a Crunch easily from Crawdant and Sharpedo(Stab) and Garchomp etc .Even with a Choice Band, Adamant nature,max Att and STAB, Sharpedo can't kill her. I really don't think a human would survive that. How many of us survive after a shark bites off an arm? We have to be rushed to the hospital.

    Blissey can take Slash, Bug Bite and Bullet Punch from Scizor. How many slashes and bites from this Pokemon's massive, sharp pincers could you take?

    Blissey can take Mega Punch from Breloom, Blaziken, Hariyama, Slaking(yes) etc as well as a Mega Kick from those and others (excluding slaking). Be honest with yourself, wouldn't you keel over after a hariyama's punch?

    She can wishstand Megahorn from Absol,Rhyperior and Heracross barely KOs her with 101% damage.

    She can take Dragon Claw from Dragonite(actually every attack of his apart from Outrage which kills her with 107% damage)

    Outrage from Gyarados and Ttar

    Return,Iron Tail,Earthquake, Mega Kick from Rampardos(you get the idea)...

    Night Slash, Crunch, Return from Weavile

    Last Resort from Ambipom, Flareon, Donphan (although she is almost killed she still survives. In a wild fight,she could run away and regain health with Softboiled or Wish).

    Leaf Blade from Gallade and Leafeon.

    Body Slam from Snorlax.

    Mach Punch and Low Kick from Hitmonchan and Giga Impact from Hitmonlee (Okay close your mouth)

    Meteor Mash from Metagross

    Sacred Fire from Ho-Oh

    Wood Hammer from Torterra.

    Gunk Shot from Arbok and Ursaring.

    Flare Blitz from Infernape.

    She even has a chance to survive an stab Earthquake from Groudon but with only 1% HP left haha

    Anyway guys, I could go on and on and on. To cut a long story short, Blissey can survive any physical attacks unless it's a stab fighting type. Only some other very powerful physical attacks that aren't fighting(130 BP and up) can OHKO if they are used by a strong attacker.

    And don't let me start about the Special Attacks!


    Now to turn the topic away from its title(it doesn't seem to have future if it stays that way) , do you think the average human is physically as durable as Blissey? I think that we are far frailer. As I said Blissey can take all those physical attacks and survive while I really didn't even find an attack from the ones I listed that a human would be able to survive. Brave bird would nail us. After a Close Combat we would fall down battered with a disturbingly misshapen body(lol). Stone Edge? Similar to what they do to women in Islam(and none ever survived). Dragon Claw? Teared apart. Outrage? You get the idea. Crunch? Similar to shark attacks or any animal attack like hippos and bears.

    So I think, even Blissey would be physically more durable than us.

    So what would our stats be?
    HP : Around 55 - We aren't that tough. And it matches our size also.
    Def : 35 - Well, we can't withstand much physical injury. We are frail.
    Att : 75
    Sp.Def : 25 - we really cant withstand a laser beam or a bolt do we? And we don't handle extreme cold or heat for too long either.
    Speed : 80 - bunnies and cats are faster than us so a bit slower than buneary and mewoth.
     
    Some Pokemon have their Speed, others have their Special Attack... And then there're the Blissey, prancing aboot with their heads full of Hit Points.

    But its offense and Defense are major downfalls. At least it has a decent Special Defense.
     
    Haha Taro - 'prancing aboot with their heads full of Hit Points' .. That was more than funny hahahah

    But to be honest, 135 Base Sp.Def isn't decent. It's at least great.


    And yeah it has to do with eggs. You see as soon as Happiny evolves it becomes a large pink blubbery monster with HP to be afraid of and an egg in the pouch.
     
    OreoMaster said:
    A Blissey with max defense EVs can take hits just like a max HP Spiritomb and Scizor. Max her HP as well(she doesn't need Sp.Def EVs anyway) and she can withstand a brawl even better.
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    No. A Blissey has 130 defense at max, that does NOT take hits well, even with 700+ hp. You should use Chansey on Eviolite if you want her to deal with physical hits (and even then it's way below average)
    Taro Tanaka said:
    Some Pokemon have their Speed, others have their Special Attack... And then there're the Blissey, prancing aboot with their heads full of Hit Points.

    But its offense and Defense are major downfalls. At least it has a decent Special Defense.
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    And what, her offense and defense are NOT major downfalls, her role is a special wall. No one uses Blissey to take physical hits or do damage, her role is to stall. Besides, she has Seismic Toss which consistently does 100 damage, so her offense is irrelevant.

    Anyway, size =/= power/hp/any stat at all. It's purely conceptual with Blissey - she is a healthcare Pokémon, so naturally she has outrageous HP because that is her trademark. Wobbuffet has a lot because he is a punching bag. Wailord has a lot because he is a WHALE, and Drifblim and Gastrodon are just bulky overall.
     
    Okay Yoshikkko, firstly, HP has to do with the body mass.Of course it can indicate the stamina and general toughness of the Pokemon but body mass is the main factor. If you take it by how designers made each Pokemon then you will understand that HP is related with how large the Pokemon is, because, the bigger you are the more your body can withstand.

    Blissey and Chansey are health-related Pokemon so they have huge Health. So does Alomomola. Wobbuffet is a punching bag so he has lots of HP because, as a punching bag, he can take many hits.

    No, Drifblim and Gastrodon aren't overall bulky. They are, at least Gastrodon has decent defenses, but the reason they have their hefty HP is because Drifblim is a balloon and Gastrodon is an invertebrate. Drifblim,being a balloon, withstands a lot of punishment. Try punching around a balloon. Unless you pop it with a pin it won't get damaged. That's why. Wigglytuff is the same case. She is just a pink bunny. But she, being a balloon-ish Pokemon as well, can take a lot of damage before falling. It is not a coincidence that both Pokemon are balloon-related and both have high HP.
    Gastrodon, being a boneless animal, can take much more beating than others. Invertebrates can withstand more physical injuries than bony animals.

    Munchlax is the pre-evolved form of Snorlax so, with Snorlax having so much HP, it has to have a high HP too. Also both of them, sleeping all day long, have huge energy reserves that can be translated as stamina thus HP.

    Okay now that we have gotten all these out of the list just because they are conceptual what is left?

    If you look at Serebi's list of Top 100 HP Pokemon and ignore the Pokemon I just mentioned you will see that HP is indeed based on body mass. Snorlax, Slaking, Tyranitar etc All big all with high HP.


    Okay, as for Blissey.
    Believe or not buddy, with max Def at 130 she can take hits just like max HP Spiritomb and Scizor.

    Gyarados with 252 EVs in Att and Adamant Nature uses STAB Aqua Tail.
    Damage done -
    Max EVs in Def without a beneficial nature Blissey : 47.9% - 56.4%
    Max EVs in HP Spiritomb : 48.4% - 57.2%
    Max EVs in HP Scizor : 45.6% - 54.1%

    So seems that Blissey is quite good.
     
    Because it's the medic of the PokéVerse. And medics do have to be strong if they're gonna treat other people's wounds.
     
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