Was Butterfree supposed to originally evolve from Venonat?

[Azureth]

Just look at them:

There's no way that was a coincidence.

 

[ShinyMeowth]

Never thought of that, but by looking at the pictures next to each other, it actually looks pretty obvious that you are correct. Nice find.

 

[vaporeon7]

It is possible. Their first generation sprites look very similar.

 

[Christopher]

It's seems to me we get one of these every 2 months here XD.

Yes the resemblance is striking and it is entirely possible but why did Gamefreak change it is the question?

 

[j2y8n2x]

Yup!
And caterpie supposed to evolve to Venomoth XD

 

[Barn]

Yes, it was Game Freak's original plan.

 

[countryemo]

and cubone was supposed to evolve to kanghaskan
how many of these 'changes' were there.


yeah theese are strangley familar xD like clones. o.o

 

[Yukimi]

Heh, the similarities are striking. I wonder if that really was GF's original plan.

 

[Azureth]

Also:

 

[Maruno]

This, basically:

 

[Rai]

O.O

I NEVER thought about that before and I love both of those lines. Why would they change it though?

It is interesting because when you look at it, Venonat and Butterfree have the same antennae which aren't fuzzy. Only moths have fuzzy antennae. But Caterpie and Venemoth don't even really have antennae. Hmm...

 

[Rich Boy Rob]

O_O
I have never noticed that before! They are similar in almost every respect, they have the same eyes, nose/mouth, hands, antenna and general shape!
Event Metapod and Venomoth look somewhat similar.
What caused them to change it I wonder? Or was it an accident that stuck?

 

[Uecil]

I remember a thread like this on another forum!
Yeah, I go to other forums

And that is a very good observation, I do think maybe Venonat was originally supposed to evolve into a Butterfree.

 

[Giraffe]

Wow, how very strange! o:

I don't see what would have made them change it, though?

 

[Rensider]

You just blew my mind with that!

I wonder how likely it is that that was the original plan?

 

[Serene Grace]

Azureth: When creating a new thread, please keep in mind the 4 word/25 character rule. The next time this happens, an infraction will come your way.

 

[coolcatkim22]

No it wasn't, I know, I checked.

 

[fenyx4]

It's seems to me we get one of these every 2 months here XD.

LOL agreed. I just posted in this thread just a few months ago regarding the same matter.

This, basically:

I kind of prefer the "original" lines myself (the shiny colorations of Caterpie, Metapod, and Venomoth even form RBY together! :D Although shinyness was introduced after Generation 1...), though the "actual" lines have been ingrained in my head for so long. I'd hate it if the developers were just too lazy to fix a sequencing error just because this cropped up late in development... they could have retconned it in Generation 3 or something...

Though I guess Game Freak could have changed it because the chrysalis/cocoon>butterfly/moth transition is supposed to be "OMG! WOW!" with radical physical differences, and with Butterfree and Venomoth looking almost nothing like their previous stages because of the supposed "switch", the "OMG! WOW!" emotion is retained, possibly being even greater.

No it wasn't, I know, I checked.

Uh...any proof that it wasn't the original idea? I've never heard Nintendo officially acknowledging the matter; only that what we have is what we have: the current official lines of Caterpie>Metapod>Butterfree and Venonat>Venomoth.

Right now, we have no official word confirming or denying whether anything was altered with the evolutionary lines of Caterpie and Venonat during the developmental stages of the Japanese Red and Green Versions. All we have is one major argument supporting that there was an error, and one argument against the existence of an error.

Argument for Rumored Lines: As many people have pointed out, Venomoth appears to share more physical similarities with Caterpie and Metapod than it does with Venonat. Similarly, Butterfree bears a striking resemblance to Venonat rather than Metapod and Caterpie. This can be seen with the antennae, eyes, mouths, hands, feet, and abdomen:

Argument for Official Lines: The theory that the original 151 Pokemon were programmed into Red and Green according to order of creation, rather than Dex order or randomness. This is supported by Game Freak confirming that Rhydon was the first Pokemon ever designed, with Rhydon also being the first Pokemon in hexadecimal order in Red and Green (you posted this in the older thread, btw, coolcatkim22):

Unfortunately, without an official response on the developmental matter of these prominent butterfly/moth lines of Kanto, everything is just speculation. T_T

 

[Eurydice]

i saw this somewhere not to long ago. i actually think that caterpie should evolve into venomoth because venonat and butterfree are just to alike for it to be a coincidence

 

[Oryx]

What I read is that the lines had to do with the anime. They wanted Ash to have a Butterfree. They wanted Butterfree to be cute. They changed the lines.