toxicrock or lucario .......which is better ?

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    pls tell me why and give a move set for your choice
     
    Toxicroak cant handle half of what Lucario can. I like Toxicroak but in battling Lucario is better. I will post my favorite moveset for Lucario in a minute
    Lucario @Choice Band
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    Ability: Steadfast
    -Close Combat
    -Crunch
    -Stone-Edge
    -Blaze Kick/Bullet Punch/Extremespeed
     
    Lucario by a long shot.
    Stats:
    HP 70
    At 110
    Def 70
    SAt 115
    SDef 70
    Spd 90

    Toxicroak
    HP 83
    At 106
    Def 65
    SAt 86
    SDef 65
    Spd 85

    Lucario beats Toxicroak in 5 out of 6 stats, Toxicroak's Poison attacks can't touch Lucario and Lucario's Steel protects it from many types (Normal, Steel, Poison, Psychic becomes normal damage, and Rock) and has more type coverage. Plus, Lucario makes a mean Special Sweeper.

    EDIT: Sorry, forgot the moveset.
    Smogon never lets us down XD

    Lucario @Choice Specs
    EV: 4 Def/ 252 SpA/ 252 Spd
    Ability: Steadfast
    Nature: Modest
    ~ Aura Sphere
    ~ Vacuum Wave
    ~ Dark Pulse/ Shadow Ball
    ~ Hidden Power Ice
     
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    Depends on your team.

    If you're using a Rain Dance team, Toxicroak is the way to go.

    If not, 'Cario is the way to go, he can beat down the Ever so common T-tar with a STAB Aura Sphere or Close Combat.
     
    Lucario, because it can learn psychic which has the advantage over toxicroak. =]
     
    Lucario is way way way way way way way way WAY better. He's so superior, I can't even begin. I'll leave you with this:

    Lucario @ Life Orb
    Adamant
    252 Att/252 Spe/6 HP
    Close Combat
    Swords Dance
    Crunch
    HP Ice/Extremespeed/Bullett Punch
     
    I think Lucario is better than Toxicroak.
    Item:Life Orb
    Ability:Inner Focus
    Nature:Adamant
    Moveset:Close Combat
    Swords Dance
    ExtremeSpeed
    Crunch/Stone Edge.
    I hope i helped.
     
    Lucario, and Gallade over both.
     
    Lucario has less resistances, but it's base stats are better:

    Lucario:
    70/110/70/115/70/90
    Toxicroak:
    83/106/65/86/65/81

    As you can see, Lucario is obviously the better choice. It gets close combat, extreme speed, aura sphere, swords dance, etc. while Toxicroak gets suckerpunch, poison jab, etc. Lucario can also be a huge mix sweeping threat.
     
    Moist Bander said:
    Lucario has less resistances, but it's base stats are better:

    Lucario:
    70/110/70/115/70/90
    Toxicroak:
    83/106/65/86/65/81

    As you can see, Lucario is obviously the better choice. It gets close combat, extreme speed, aura sphere, swords dance, etc. while Toxicroak gets suckerpunch, poison jab, etc. Lucario can also be a huge mix sweeping threat.
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    What exactly is Toxicroak going to be resisting? It's too fragile to be taking many hits, so the Typing isn't a huge help.
     
    Archer said:
    What exactly is Toxicroak going to be resisting? It's too fragile to be taking many hits, so the Typing isn't a huge help.
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    I didn't necessarily mean Toxicroak resists everything, but I meant it can help quite a bit on switch-ins. It resists most physical attacks (Bug, Fighting, Dark and Rock).
     
    Lucario for the win!
    And Smeargle is his daddy!
    *cheers*

    Lucario @ Inner Focus
    Life Orb / Expert Belt
    Jolly / Adamant
    ~Swords Dance
    ~Bullet Punch (Frosslass, STAB, Weavile)
    ~Blaze Kick (steels, Weavile, Heracross, Frosslass, critical hit)
    ~Bite / Rock Tomb (ghosts, flinch, or speed boost; choose wisely)

    I'm trying these guys out right now in PBR. Seems successful in PBR at least.

    Thoughts?
     
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    Lucario is much much better,
    here's the moveset,ev's,item,nature and ability i like the best~
    Lucario@Life Orb
    Evs-4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Nature-Adamant
    Moveset:
    ~ Close Combat
    ~ Swords Dance
    ~ ExtremeSpeed
    ~ Crunch
    Ability-Inner Focus

    Here's the base stats-
    Min- Min Max Max+
    HP 70 - 281 344 -
    Atk 110 230 256 319 350
    Def 70 158 176 239 262
    SpA 115 239 266 329 361
    SpD 70 158 176 239 262
    Spe 90 194 216 279 306
     
    Am I going to be the only one to vouch for my man toxicroak?? Under the rain I'd say Toxicroak is a way better choice than Lucario. He absorbs water on the switch in, how's that for a resistance, AND under rain he gains back the HP he would have lost from life orb (which is a given to attach). Also with moves like sucker punch and Cross Chop he can be devastating to an unprepared team. Of course, this is all with rain support.

    I suppose under normal conditions Lucario is the way to go. But then again, it is all about the rest of the team. There may be a third pokemon which could suit your team way better than these combined.
     
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