5th Gen The twin rivers of Unova

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    [PokeCommunity.com] The twin rivers of Unova


    Behold, the map of the Unova region.


    If you manage to get over the "circle" shape, it is really quite a pretty place, especially with the two majestic rivers that beautifully divide the region into three lovely pieces. Now, I can't be the only one that sort of gets the impression that Black and White have been lacking in the surfing department, right? Makes you sort of wonder why you're not allowed to surf on the rivers..

    Let's try to think a little about this. Why are you prevented from surfing at the rivers of Unvoa?

    One could argue that it must be due to wild currents in the rivers, making it too dangerous, but Hoenn didn't have a problem with that. Hell, you face the same situation at routes 17 and 18, with the moving water, and no one appears to have any trouble with that..

    It could just be the case that you are really horrible at surfing, and that you might crash into or block off the route of the Royal Unova when it happens to cruise by (or it could just be the crew that is incredibly bad at steering it and you're not allowed to surf there for your own safety) - but it doesn't enter the rivers at all, all it does is to snoop by the riverbed where the Marvellous Bridge has its fun, and goes back to Castelia.

    Is it maybe just the case that the Unovians are too afraid of their beloved bridges to allow anyone to get even close to them? I don't know about you, but for instance someone wanted to borrow a whole lot of Voltorb to ruin one of the bridges, I'd rather try to blow up part of the support from one side rather than surf into the middle of it, considering how ships must be able to pass, aka there should be no significant parts at "sea level" that supports the bridge (everything we have seen indicates that the bridges are entirely land-based) and thus this shouldn't really be a hindrance.

    That, and if anything dangerous were to happen, you could just Fly away (especially with no badge restrictions preventing you from doing so!), no problem.

    Keep your current thoughts, but just let them stay there untouched as we move away from that topic for a little bit.

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    Behold Nimbasa City, the bustling Stadium of Light, relaxation and city of fun deluxe - and quite possibly the most technologically advanced city we've ever seen in the pokemon games, followed closely by the Opelucid City in black (I mean, have you seen those illuminated pavements? wow)

    Also take note to how you only find wild Trubbish and its evolution, Garbodor, around the outskirts of these two cities.

    Come to think of it, where do unovians actually get rid of their trash? Considering how for instance Mt. Moon waay back has signs that say "Don't litter", one would think that this is a valid concern in any game..

    The fact that the entire region is almost entirely ridden of trash (I mean, look at their waste bins, they are all freaking empty barring the ultra ball one + another significant one which we will get back to) suggests to me that they need to have some way of getting rid of it that is not known to the player. You don't just introduce the most populated region we get to know and tell us that these do not leave any waste behind, do you?

    Just let your thoughts wander for a while, possibly let them interact with each other.

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    Have you ever seen a trash bag or a torn plastic bag float somewhere at the shoreline? Or rather, to be more specific, imagine what the "mask" of Garbodor would look like if it was separated from its body (sadly the chances for a dust bunny surviving almost completely submerged in water before it starts separating can't be said to be very big) and were floating in the middle of the sea - it has two holes for eyes, and four floating-tentacle things.

    Congratulations - we now have a pokemon that got killed, but whose remains and possibly soul linger in an inanimate object that floats in the sea. In other words, we have found out where Frillish come from! This would also help clarify where it gets its poisoning abilities that the pokedex references, as a former Poison-type it would easily be able to harvest something out of its earlier shell of a body.

    Remember, there are two places where you have somewhat restricted access to these rivers - Driftveil City and the Village Bridge. Driftveil is securely located on the non-Trubbish side of the river, yet if you surf there the river is full of nothing but Frillish, suggesting that the river is completely overtaken by the species.

    Village Bridge is, however, a bit more complicated and unique. You've got people living ON the river, and they live longer north than the other inhabitants that would be affected by it (Nimbasa ahem), in other words, they don't have to deal with other people's dumping of trash. Indeed, just notice the lack of any Garbodor on the adjacent route that connects it to Opelucid, while the escaped Garbodor freely rampage next to the Tubeline Bridge.

    Further proof that Village Bridge cares about its water supply is gained by the single fact that this is the only place in the game where THEY ACTUALLY TOSS THEIR LEFTOVERS INTO WASTE BINS, unlike the rest of Unova. No wonder you're finding nothing but Basculin and Lapras in this water - there's no raw ingredients to be found in the water for Frillish to exist.

    So, what does all of this mean?

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    Ladies and gentlemen, Unova dumps all of its trash in its rivers.

    This is why you're not allowed on the rivers of Unova, the toxins would cause immense pain and melt down the pokemon doing the surfing.

    This is why we don't come across any rubbish in their waste bins, ever*.

    This is why we come across Ducklett and Swanna on the BRIDGES, they have no way of surviving in the polluted water, so they seek refugee on them.

    This is why despite all the rain in Unova, Swift Swimmers hardly exist in the region due to the fact that the rain is acidic - the only Swift Swimmers that survived were the ones that developed a resistance to the poison, suffering huge deformations as a result from living in impure water (no arms on Palpitoed, for instance).

    Finally, this is also why the Royal Unova doesn't sail up into the rivers - due to the fact that eventually the Frillish all evolve into Jellicent - who sinks, dislocates, and kills everything that enters its territory.

    Thoughts?
     
    Well, the region itself is based upon New York; and when you think of New York, you're not really thinking about surfing or riding the waves. Nearly most of the year, the water is pretty cold anyway. So I can see why the developers didn't really put a lot of emphasis on doing much surfing in this region. They're more proud of their development and bridges and using that as an easier way to commute pass the rivers.

    At least, that's my take on it anyway. It never really crossed my mind much to be honest.
     
    This has also did not come up in my mind for some odd reason. I believe that game freak did not want anyone to travel through these rivers because they are honestly not important and will probably take minutes to get from one place until the next fresh piece of land and that is not game freak's attentions.


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    tl;dr, but honestly I think there should have been more surfing routes, so I think it would have been cool to surf the rivers and what not.
     
    Interesting theory, and I know for a fact that I wouldn't want to swim in those nasty New York rivers (not that I can swim anyway, but...

    It's probably done so the programmers didn't have to make those rivers actually lead somewhere... but more p[laces to Surf wouldn't be so bad, especially since Surf is one of the few useful HM's.
     
    I wondered that also while exploring the region, I wanted to go further down the bridges in surfing but the rocks & fences were in the way. Pollution could be it, but Unova seems too sophisticated for that. Maybe there's a ticking time bomb o.o I really don't know, but would like to find out someday :]
     
    This has to be the most epic win of an original post I have ever read haha.

    I had never thought of this possibility either! You probably need a very specific sort of brain for it to go there :P - however I'm glad we couldn't travel on the rivers to be honest. The lack of water routes was the one thing that made Unova tolerable for me. If they want to dump their trash in the Unovan rivers, then that's fine by me.
     
    Holy sh*t, I never thought of this! You, sir, are a genius!
    But no, seriously, they should stop doing that. I would have loved to surf that river.
     
    I think that Game Freak didn't want us to swim into these rivers 'cause you will land near the Entralink. But if we look closely the map, you can see that two bridges are connecting the Chargestone Cave and an other mountain who looks like Chargestone too. Or maybe Game Freak didn't fully used the potential of the map they've created.

    Btw, Nice essay Opposite Day!
     
    Mew~ said:
    tl;dr, but honestly I think there should have been more surfing routes, so I think it would have been cool to surf the rivers and what not.
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    This pretty much.

    I disliked the lack of surfing routes in Black and White. I also noticed along with there being limited amount of surfing routes that there are few Water Pokemon to begin with. There's pretty much only Samurott, Jellicent, Basulin, and that Pink think I forgets it's name. >_<
    Either way not many choices, which is why I dislike Unova :/
     
    OMG awesome post ! By the way, it would be entirely "crap" if you would be able to swim on these rivers, I do know that Gamefreak uses rocks to limit the movements of Surf (I hate y'all, thanks for the games though). Even if we were to be able to do so, it would have sucked and no one would even want to do so, unless there is a secret tomb which contains an unlimited amount of master balls hidden under the rivers. Who knows?

    By the way as what TheFred said, about the two bridges near the Entralink, I wonder what that is. I do know that the bridge NEARER to the Entralink Island is those you use to go an another player's Entralink or should I say.. world?

    And I lol'ed hard at the Frillish thing.
    And also, to be honest, I never thought of that, what I always thought is "Hey I have a bridge ha ha ha you lost river".

    Out of topic, Hawk then why is your pictures a Hydreigon? >_>
     
    @Genesect: I mean, I dislike the region's layout, not the Pokemon and everything about Unova. I probably should have worded what I said a little better.

    @Topic: I like the bridge idea they had for Unova, but there's just too many and not enough water in my opinion. Outside of Undella Town/Bay there's not many surfing spots. I am glad that they brought back the HM Dive so there's at least enough water to dive in.
     
    well i agree with the above post about how Unova is based on NYC. ive been there and trust me... you don't want to swim in them. but you can in unova. in case you have forgotten village bridge. you can surf as much as you want to there.
     
    Eek, I'm not reading that wall of text! :surprised:

    From what I gathered from the responses, I think you're talking about not being able to surf in water... *reads first 2 sentences* yup.

    I don't think it was necessary to make additional water routes just to surf in those areas, mainly because I don't think excessive water routes are necessary... (plus they are annoying with all the tentacools. (basculins in this case))
     
    Well that makes sense plus maybe their is something up those rivers that we aren't meant to see until next gen ;)
    plus unova is the opposite to Hoenn when it comes to water routes...kind of disappointed me since I like surfing ( especially when there are islands with pokeballs...huh...maybe hoenn has pollution too...)
     
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