The general competitive standard: Rules

Nightofshadow

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    There seem to have been an issue of what some rules mean and what some people on the forums play by so i decided to make this thread explaining what somethings actually mean.

    Sleep clause: This means that you can ONLY put one pokemon of your opponents to sleep at a time. If the opponent rests' then that is a completely different story. That DOES NOT count toward the sleep count

    Double Team/Evasion clause: This is a commonly known rule because of the abilities such as Double Team and minimize. This means that the ability is NOT allowed in competitive pokemon gameplay.

    Item clause: This isnt standard in most cases but I shall add it anyway. This Clause means that only one type of item can be used per pokemon. Examples would mean that 2 pokemon cannot have 2 leftovers on them on the same team. This normally pretains to battle tower rules but some people follow them anyway.

    One hit KO clause: This means that anymove that forces a one hit KO are NOT allowed. Most people tend to follow this rule anyway but its always good to point it out.

    Hax Item clause: This means items such as quick claw/Brightpowder. Any Item with an ability similar to those 2 arent allowed in standard play

    Items:

    Quick Claw
    Brightpowder
    Scope Lens
    Razor Claw
    Razor Fang

    No ubers: This normally is already generally known but so that people dont say they do not know I shall post the official list that the japanese AND american competitive communities follow.

    Ubers - Pokemon that are too powerful in a competitive setting, and are thus banned under most conditions.

    Uber:
    Mewtwo
    Mew
    Wobbuffet
    Lugia
    Ho-Oh
    Latias
    Latios
    Kyogre
    Groudon
    Rayquaza
    Deoxys (all forms)
    Dialga
    Palkia
    Giratina
    Manaphy
    Darkrai
    Arceus

    Any of the pokemon on this list are considered"Uber" Pokemon. They have outstanding base stats compared to the rest of the pokemon with in the game. So its only natural to get rid of these pokemon so that people will not have to play against them in a competitive nature.

    No legendaries: This commonly gets mixed up with *ubers* Because of the fact that most legendaries have outstanding pokemon stats as well. But not all legendaries are considered uber. However if someone pulls out this rule generally it means non-uber legendaries as well. Which in some cases is pretty silly. But what can you do =P.

    No hacked stats/hacked ability pokemon: This is pretty simple and straight forward, but i will break it down anyway. NOT EVERYONE hacks pokemon with hacked stats, perfect IV''s or the like. Some people just DO NOT want to trade for some pokemon that people arent willing to trade away in the first place. Some are also commonly lazy and DO not feel like going through the trouble of waiting for somethings to happen(nintendo events cough) Hacked pokemon themselves are fine in a general state anyway. Hacked stat/abilities on pokemon tend to make the game less fun for alot of players so generally it isnt allowed. Some people care, some others dont. Either way it is frowned upon in general gameplay standards.

    If i come up with anything else, I will repost in this thread. (Can i get this stickied please? <3)

    A special note about the Lati@s: Due to general consensus, The lati@s ARE considered uber with or with out souldew. They are only usable in nintendo sactioned events.

    Banned moves:

    Minimize
    Double Team
    Horn Drill
    Sheer Cold
    Fissure
    Guillotine
     
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    Good write up. Include Item Clause, Hax Item Clause, and OHKO Clause.

    Also, your sig is too big. =\

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    Lol alright i fixed the sig issue lol

    Added The Item clause(i never really heard of a hacked item clause that didnt pretain to the event Items unless i missed something)
     
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    Good layout.

    I think another one should be made up. Stat Clause as in using moves that increase or decrease peoples stats. Moves that make your stats increase, decrease and vice versa for the opponent are NOT included. (Focus Blast, Charge Beam, Overheat, ETC.)
     
    DBsummit said:
    I've never heard of someone using a Stat Clause before; that's just ridiculous.
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    There isnt one.... ANYWHERE. Ive been on almost every competitive pokemon forum and there isnt one single stat clause
     
    Think you should add "Soul Dew" to your uber item or something
     
    Action said:
    Soul Dew only functions with Lati@s. Seeing as how the two are already banned from non-uber play, it seems like a moot point.
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    haha i learned something, ty


    but seriously i am still going to consider evry single legend an uber (idc what you people say)
     
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    Soul Dew only functions with Lati@s. Seeing as how the two are already banned from non-uber play, it seems like a moot point.
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    Yet Ive also seen in a few sources that the Latis are only considered uber if they are holding Soul Dew. Im a bit confused.

    What the rule gonna be here then?
     
    Actually, yes. Lati@s are only considered uber when they are holding the Soul Dew.

    Also, not all legendaries are uber, that's dumb to think that way. For example, the 3 dogs don't have suberb stats, they are just decent, and infact pokemon like Jolteon are better than Raikou for the sole purpose that you can actually breed them to get good IVs.

    Legendaries like the dogs, birds, 3 psychics and such usually come with sucky IVs, unless they are hacked, but then that means you'd be falling back on the "Hack" rule. There is not reason at all to call all legendaries uber(Unless you like to use excuses as to why you are losing, I guess..).

    Seriously, some people need to learn. Tsk tsk.
     
    Lati@s are BOTH useable if they arent holding souldew. If they are they are considered uber. I have seen this very many and very credible sourses
     
    Soul Dew's not forbidden though. It's only forbidden when it's used on a Lati@s. Yes, I realise it does nothing unless it's on a Lati@s, but still, you can use it on a different Pokémon if you want (it could be helpful when using Trick, so the opponent would end up with a useless item).

    "Lati@s" should be filed under Legendary.
    "Lati@s (holding Soul Dew)" should be filed under Uber.
     
    I know; was just making an example.
     
    I updated it... There ya go
     
    I think that Lati@s is uber regardless of its item. It's a superior Draco Meteor Pokemon to Salamence in so many ways it isn't funny:

    Faster
    No 4x ice weak
    Calm Mind
    Recover

    And a better movepool. I thought it was consensus that they're banned regardless.
     
    Same here. With or without Soul Dew Lati@s is uber.
     
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