Pokeshipping - Disturbing sure. Canon?

[KostK2Boss]

Shipping is like a top issue today, as far as the Pokemon anime and manga are concerned. And I don't deny that there was always some kind of charm between Ash and Misty/May/Dawn, which was rarely more explicit than an innocent blushing, or an uncomfortable cough. Well, that's exactly how it should be after all, this is also a kids' show. Ash has saved each of the three girls at least 10 times, holding them from falling from huge cliffs, or when attacked by a school of Sharpedo. They are all best friends after all they've been to, that's for sure, but a love affair - as in the case of Pokeshipping/Pearlshipping/Questshipping is a different thing.
But leave the main characters apart, Bulbapedia also lists dozens of other shippings:
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Shipping_redirects
Some involve Ash and a character-of-the-day, or Ash and a character he has never met. And it doesn't stop there. Some of the shippings are also homosexual, or zoophilliac. I don't have anything against homosexual people, but when in a kids' show... it's weird - especially after PUSA took over.
So the question is: Are those shippings canon, or just a poor fan assumption??

 

[Vernikova]

Pokémon shippings are pure assumptions made by the fans. The only true pairs are one-time couples and married couples that have been said that they are romantically engaged with the other. Oh, and actual Pokémon couples as well.

 

[JP]

Pokémon shippings are pure assumptions made by the fans. The only true pairs are one-time couples and married couples that have been said that they are romantically engaged with the other. Oh, and actual Pokémon couples as well.

I agree with this. Funny, I've never heard someone refer to this as "shipping" lol.

 

[KostK2Boss]

Pokémon shippings are pure assumptions made by the fans. The only true pairs are one-time couples and married couples that have been said that they are romantically engaged with the other. Oh, and actual Pokémon couples as well.

Like Brock's parents, who got along in the Pokemon Chronicles, or that regal couple in "The Bicker,the Better", who actually stated that they are in love. Sure these pairs are official.
But a fan-made shipping of Alice and Darkrai?!? That's both sick and immoral. Not to mention that Darkrai, as a legendary, is several hundred years old.

 

[Noibat]

o.o it's just fanboys/girls hoping for a relationship between their two favorite characters. There is nothing I see thats harmful in that

 

[Jorah]

But a fan-made shipping of Alice and Darkrai?!? That's both sick and immoral. Not to mention that Darkrai, as a legendary, is several hundred years old.

When people say they ship people/Pokemon relationships, they don't usually mean as in a romantic relationship.

Something interesting ~ in the Japanese versions of DPPt one of the Sinnoh myths were different from the English versions. https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Zhen_Lin/Shin'ō_folklore
It's the one right at the bottom, it says that people and Pokemon used to get married. The English version changed it to something about people and Pokemon sitting at the same table.

 

[I Laugh at your Misfortune!]

It was mostly in the dub, but if we take the dub as canon then Pokeshipping was at the least implied by the writers. Tbh, most shippings are what you said - a load of rubbish. Pokeshipping and Contestshipping, however, are so strongly supported by evidence that they are nearly canon. Kind of.

 

[JP]

When people say they ship people/Pokemon relationships, they don't usually mean as in a romantic relationship.

Something interesting ~ in the Japanese versions of DPPt one of the Sinnoh myths were different from the English versions. https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Zhen_Lin/Shin'ō_folklore
It's the one right at the bottom, it says that people and Pokemon used to get married. The English version changed it to something about people and Pokemon sitting at the same table.

Haha, that's a bit disturbing. :P

 

[Spinor]

Shippings are simply fan thoughts gone wild. That is all you have to know.

Of course, most of them simply aren't cannon and probably will never be. That's why they go crazier than necessary. *coughpokeshippingcough*

 

[DarkLugiaMaster-Gir]

I do think some pairings are extremely crazy and a bit disturbing,but alot of them actually have alot of genuine points

 

[Miss Soupy]

/shrug
I always figured that most of the way-out-there pairings weren't exactly srs bsness. Just more of the fans having fun by writing fanfiction or making fanart and stuff like that? :D I find the Pokemon x Human ones disturbing, though. But if it makes them happy... Er... go for it?

But I know there's a small fraction that really gets into it. I've just never seen them myself.

 

[Vernikova]

Like Brock's parents, who got along in the Pokemon Chronicles, or that regal couple in "The Bicker,the Better", who actually stated that they are in love. Sure these pairs are official.
But a fan-made shipping of Alice and Darkrai?!? That's both sick and immoral. Not to mention that Darkrai, as a legendary, is several hundred years old.

Exactly. I hope that that clears it up for you.

 

[Trap-Eds]

Something interesting ~ in the Japanese versions of DPPt one of the Sinnoh myths were different from the English versions. https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Zhen_Lin/Shin'ō_folklore
It's the one right at the bottom, it says that people and Pokemon used to get married. The English version changed it to something about people and Pokemon sitting at the same table.

Heh-heh. I think I like the English versions better.

"There once were Pokemon that became very close to humans.
There once were humans and Pokemon who ate together at the same table.
It was a time when there existed no differences to extinguish the two."

Kinda creepy...but anyway, shippings are just another thing fans make up about a show or series or whatever. You don't gotta take them seriously. :)

 

[KostK2Boss]

When people say they ship people/Pokemon relationships, they don't usually mean as in a romantic relationship.

Something interesting ~ in the Japanese versions of DPPt one of the Sinnoh myths were different from the English versions. https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Zhen_Lin/Shin'ō_folklore
It's the one right at the bottom, it says that people and Pokemon used to get married. The English version changed it to something about people and Pokemon sitting at the same table.

Very intresting, I didn't know that they dub the games too. But I already have heard about pokemon-human marriage from PMD 1. The Gardevoir had been married to a human, who later turned into Gengar. It was then stated by the wise Whishkash that the bond pokemon-human couples had was clearly spiritual, which - considering that humans don't lay EGGs - makes a lot of sense.

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

Well, for me at least, not only has it not been canonically confirmed yet (That is, Dub-only products relating to Pokemon like that CD doesn't count), but I'm not sure if I can even believe in shippings, not if they aren't LaFS (Love at First Sight).

I mean, in Disney movies, for example, almost everything about romance was with Love at First sight. The only ones where LaFS was not involved at all was BelleXBeast, MulanXShang, and SimbaXNala/KovuXKiara (I'm not counting the mice from The Rescuers because by the time they were introduced, they already were in a relationship, and it was never specified if it was a cumulating relationship or LaFS.). And it's not just Disney Films, as even adult dramas such as Shakespeare's "Romeo and Juliet" were very focused on "Love at First Sight".

Basically, in terms of my stance in regards to Pokeshipping, or heck, any shipping for that matter, I guess you can blame Disney for that.

However, shippings don't necessarily have to deal with sexual relationships. I mean, Disney, for example, had a lot of romantic relationships without sexual intercourse being involved at all.

 

[I Laugh at your Misfortune!]

Well, for me at least, not only has it not been canonically confirmed yet (That is, Dub-only products relating to Pokemon like that CD doesn't count), but I'm not sure if I can even believe in shippings, not if they aren't LaFS (Love at First Sight).

Wait, you're suggesting that the only possible way a shipping could be possible is if it was love at first sight?

I agree that the oft-quoted CD is obviously non-canon, but I don't see why love at first sight is a necessary requirement for a shipping. ContestShipping, for example, is arguably one of the most evidence-supported shippings, though I doubt you could classify that as love at first sight.

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

Wait, you're suggesting that the only possible way a shipping could be possible is if it was love at first sight?

I agree that the oft-quoted CD is obviously non-canon, but I don't see why love at first sight is a necessary requirement for a shipping. ContestShipping, for example, is arguably one of the most evidence-supported shippings, though I doubt you could classify that as love at first sight.

Well, as I said in my previous post, you pretty much have Disney to thank for ruining most chances of my believing in a ship that isn't love at first sight. I mean, Snow WhiteXPC, AuroraXPhillip, CinderellaXPC, ArielXEric, AladdinXJasmine, John SmithXPocahontas, most of the relationships they have covered seemed to be nothing more than Love at First Sight. Taking into account that even adult dramas use that theme far too many times (Like PeterXSimone from "Heroes", the entire premise of "Romeo and Juliet", among other things.). I mean, if they wanted to emphasize that LAFS was completely rare, then they should have done it by true development of a relationship.

 

[EagleVision1999]

Uhm...I at least could see Pocketshipping become reality and even if it does not it did within the Dengeki Pikachu manga. I'm content with that. Pokeshipping on the other hand...was pretty onesided. Misty seemed to like Ash that way but he...he wouldn't notice if the fact attacked him XD.
But to be honest...I don't care if they're true or not no matter which. One of the great thing of the Pokemon series, the universe it takes place in and the anime with the rather loose plot, is that it allows the fans to dream alot, to make up new ideas and to expand this world with their own ideas and imagination. So I think...people shouldn't be that stict about ships being true or not. (just don't be all fanboy/girl like...that's incedibly annoying. It's all for entertaiment after all)

 

[Seadiga]

Pairings are sometimes a fans way of fitting in or showing that they think this would be a cute couple. In your (KostK2Boss) sig, it says Don't Ship. So basicly this says to me that this campain is about taking other people's opinons away by doing something or other to change something that says we can't ship.

If this isn't what the campain about, then what is it about?