Pokemon Red/Blue Remakes (What I Want To See)

[ArlexLightDragon]

I really enjoy Kanto and would love to see it turned into a 3DS game. And with the news from ORAS about the whole different dimensions thing, there is no stopping Game Freak from making a Kanto remake. However, I have noticed one thing. Team Rocket is not the highest liked evil team.

First, I would like to see Team Rocket gang up on you. (ie. Horde Battles) This would make the game FAR more challenging and much more realistic. If I was one rude dude I would not go 1 v 1 until my team was out, it would all my Pokemon against the player! (ie 3 v 1 or 4 v 1 etc.)

They also don't have much of a story, but in the anime they turn Mewtwo into a massive weapon. If there ever is a Kanto remake I hope to see the normal story, but by the time you reach the Cerulean Cave to find Mewtwo in his/her place you find 2 (Two) Team Rocket Grunts.

At that point you battle them both and when defeated they state. "Leader Giovanni has captured the target". and "Leader Giovanni is on his way to __________." At this point the Second Episode begins, later leading to a final battle with Giovanni (and the robo-Mewtwo he created).


I'm most certainly not saying this needs to be done and ready for tomorrow, but my guess is that there will someday be remakes of these games. What do you think? Would you like to see some of these changes, or what else would you want to see in Red/Blue 3DS Remakes?

 

[Garchomp]

Tbh, I think I'd rather have a DP remake before another RBG remake. However, I know that they'll remake RBG again at some point, because its such a bankable thing for GF and Nintendo to do.

That aside, I like the idea of giving TR some layers beyond what they had originally.

Here's an idea: orange islands. FRLG gave us the sevii islands, which I thought were really disappointing. Orange islands have been something that people have been asking for for a long time, especially after the orange hack came out however many years ago.

 

[Sun]

I'm not supportive of a RG/FrLg remakes, to be complete honest. FireRed and LeafGreen were terrible, boring gaming experience for me. As a player who begun from Gen I games, I'd like to see something more and different than what the original has offered. Not a copy-paste with a few upgraded stuff.

However, a Kanto reboot would be great. Reboot means, a whole new story, perhaps a whole cast of new characters/new characters without replacing old characters, as well as new Pokédex, etc.

 

[Sopheria]

I'm with Unapologetic Sunflower on this. I love Kanto, but can't say I'm the biggest fan of the Kanto games themselves. They're great games, of course, but I don't think they've aged well, and with everything that's become a standard since then, I don't think remaking the games in the modern era would really work.

On the other hand, a reboot would be amazing for Kanto. Revisiting the region would be great, and we'd get to see how things have changed in the region since GSC.

Your ideas for Team Rocket all sound great though! It sounds like it'd be a great way to modernize the Team Rocket arc of the story, since Team Rocket, unlike the rest of the villainous teams, has never really done anything Earth-threateningly dangerous. Putting Mewtwo into it would be perfect :)

 

[pkmin3033]

I'd prefer they remake DPPt before RGB as well, to be honest. Not only is the fourth generation my favourite, but it doesn't actually feel that long since we had remakes of the first generation...I know it's been over a decade, but still, they'd be remaking a remake, and it feels too soon for that. Perhaps I just don't want to face up to the fact that it's been such a long time though, haha.

If they absolutely MUST remake the first generation for the anniversary, I'd prefer they remake Yellow. That is the definitive first gen game in my opinion - it let you get all three starters over the course of the story and added in numerous anime references (Team Rocket actually being Team Rocket, the Pikachu following you around, etc) which they could update for a remake to make it a real nostalgia fest for both the anime and TV series. FR/LG was plagued by that godawful trumpet music that marred the third generation of games, so my memories of them aren't as fond as they might otherwise be. The Sevii Islands were a poor man's Orange Islands as well, so they could update/amend that in a Yellow remake.

 

[rarmstar]

When Gen. I is inevitably remade, I'd love it if they did something really crazy with the story within Kanto, with the same characters from the original games.

Imagine casually making your way through the first few gyms when, all of a sudden, a rogue Hoopa-Celebi team from another universe opens a whole in time, and crazed, primal legendaries start smashing up Kanto. You, Blue, Giovanni and Lance need to work together to find some way of saving not only Kanto, but the wider Pokemon world!!

Maybe not this crazy, but I hope they will at least mix it up a bit!

 

[Sopheria]

When Gen. I is inevitably remade, I'd love it if they did something really crazy with the story within Kanto, with the same characters from the original games.

Imagine casually making your way through the first few gyms when, all of a sudden, a rogue Hoopa-Celebi team from another universe opens a whole in time, and crazed, primal legendaries start smashing up Kanto. You, Blue, Giovanni and Lance need to work together to find some way of saving not only Kanto, but the wider Pokemon world!!

Maybe not this crazy, but I hope they will at least mix it up a bit!

That'd be more like a reboot than a remake :3 but it's a cool idea. Primal Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres, perhaps?

 

[Sun]

That'd be more like a reboot than a remake :3 but it's a cool idea. Primal Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres, perhaps?

Yeah, I've been think about the Wing Mirages, since they are the only legit-non man made legendary Pokémon. So they deserve a huge role.

 

[Hiatus]

First, I would like to see Team Rocket gang up on you. (ie. Horde Battles) This would make the game FAR more challenging and much more realistic. If I was one rude dude I would not go 1 v 1 until my team was out, it would all my Pokemon against the player! (ie 3 v 1 or 4 v 1 etc.)

Since we now have Horde Battling system, it'd be nice to see them utilize it more, and I believe this would be a strong way to do so. Plus, it would also make sense for Team Rocket to be ganging up on us, considering they're a group that like to play, you know, cheap and dirty.

 

[esperance]

I'm with you all when I say that a copy+paste remake of the RBY games would be a horrible mistake, if only because the characters and events had horrible dialog. This may have been OK on the GB and somewhat meh on the GBA, but such short and choppy dialog would be completely out of place in a 3DS Pokémon game.

I'm not a fan of the who second episode you've discussed, simply because the game canon is completely different from the anime canon when it comes to Mewtwo. In RBY Mewtwo is implied to have been around for a few years (hence why the lab that made it is in such disrepair), and facing some sort of robot Mewtwo would require a complete reworking of a key part of Cinnabar Island.

If they did do a remake, I think one feature that would really fill out the game is bringing back the follow me feature from HGSS. Since the regions are so related, it would be cool to see the shared feature in their later games as well. :)

 

[magicalgirlj]

This would be awesome, I am sure Kanto would be even more amazing in 3D. I would love to be able to transfer Pokemon from previous gens, without having to pay for Pokebank

 

[BettyNewbie]

I'm not going to lie: FireRed and LeafGreen were terrible games. Not only did they add nothing new to Gen 1's (already barebones) setting, but they completely watered it down into nothingness, whether it be the terrible, pointless tutorials, bland graphics, awful music, and forgettable fetch quests.

No, a full-blown reboot (NOT a sequel, as some people here seem to be implying... That would be even WORSE!) is the only way to go. Take the same setting and characters, but polish them up to modern storytelling standards. Flesh everything out more and don't be afraid to change things up from the originals. Kick nostalgia to the curb--If people wanted to play the originals again, they'd just go play the originals again.

 

[Seth Rollins]

Guys you're not understanding. I want a FR/LG re-remake. The Kanto ganes never had much of a story, that's why i think they should be remade with a good story and many extra features. Kanto NEEDS a remake because it hasnt aged well, and it's bad and the region itself isn't that great.

Honestly I want Kanto remakes and no I do not want a sequel, a remake.

In my opinion Ruby Sapphire Emerald were bad games never enjoyed them to be honest but ORAS completely fixed that for me. Now Hoenn is pne of my fav regions.

So no I do not want a D/P/PT remake because it doesnt need to be remade as much as Kanto. Improve the rival, make him team up with you, add the girl player (Leaf) in the story even if you choose to play as male (or vice versa) just like they did with HG/SS. add the follow me feature, make the game challenging (since that's what everyone wants) improve team rocket please oh god thats the most important and have the best Post game episode ever. And then hopefully people will start liking Kanto.

If they do a copy paste remake with just a few extra features like FR/LG i'll be disappointed

No omg no no reboot no sequel. Remake is really the best decision.

 

[blaze up]

Expand Team Rocket plot and Regional Dex then I will buy it.

 

[BettyNewbie]

Guys you're not understanding. I want a FR/LG re-remake. The Kanto ganes never had much of a story, that's why i think they should be remade with a good story and many extra features. Kanto NEEDS a remake because it hasnt aged well, and it's bad and the region itself isn't that great.

Honestly I want Kanto remakes and no I do not want a sequel, a remake.

In my opinion Ruby Sapphire Emerald were bad games never enjoyed them to be honest but ORAS completely fixed that for me. Now Hoenn is pne of my fav regions.

So no I do not want a D/P/PT remake because it doesnt need to be remade as much as Kanto. Improve the rival, make him team up with you, add the girl player (Leaf) in the story even if you choose to play as male (or vice versa) just like they did with HG/SS. add the follow me feature, make the game challenging (since that's what everyone wants) improve team rocket please oh god thats the most important and have the best Post game episode ever. And then hopefully people will start liking Kanto.

If they do a copy paste remake with just a few extra features like FR/LG i'll be disappointed

No omg no no reboot no sequel. Remake is really the best decision.

Well, that's exactly what I'm advocating, if you're wondering.

Like you, I think a sequel would be a terrible idea. Aside from the obvious timeline issues, there's also the many continuity holes between Gen 1 and its first sequel, Gen 2 (especially with FRLG and HGSS). Any sequel is stuck with the storytelling flaws of those games, because canon is canon.

No, the only way to fix Gen 1 is to do a total revamp--Keep the same setting, story, and characters, but flesh them out and make it BETTER.

 

[Sopheria]

Well, that's exactly what I'm advocating, if you're wondering.

Like you, I think a sequel would be a terrible idea. Aside from the obvious timeline issues, there's also the many continuity holes between Gen 1 and its first sequel, Gen 2 (especially with FRLG and HGSS). Any sequel is stuck with the storytelling flaws of those games, because canon is canon.

No, the only way to fix Gen 1 is to do a total revamp--Keep the same setting, story, and characters, but flesh them out and make it BETTER.

Wait, I'm confused. Refreshing the region by making a sequel that chronologically follows Gen 2 would cause continuity issues, but retconning the original story wouldn't? o:

 

[Seth Rollins]

Kanto doesn't even have a original story, to be honest. Red a 11 years old kid collects gym badges and needs to stop the evil organization! I think that's pretty much it. Besides, we're on this alternate universe thing right? Everything needs to change :P

 

[KorpiklaaniVodka]

I would really like to see Gym Leader rematches, some Pokemon from other regions and Blue to fight you for a 3rd time in Pallet Town.

 

[Drayton]

Gen 1 already have it's fair chance of getting a remake and didn't go so well with it's content and lackluster post-game. If Kanto deserves a second chance, it would great if we tweak the story, TR gang up the player with it's horde battle, someone take place on 8th gym and on, but I'm not sure they deserve another go and let Gen4 take it spots and glory now.

 

[BettyNewbie]

Wait, I'm confused. Refreshing the region by making a sequel that chronologically follows Gen 2 would cause continuity issues, but retconning the original story wouldn't?

Retconning the original story also retcons the sequel and allows you to fix all the continuity issues and weaker storytelling points from both. Characters, stories, and settings can be fleshed out without breaking canon because we're now working with a brand new timeline.

I know I'm pretty much a staunch advocate of not seeing the Gen I games re-made mostly because FR/LG set a really bad example of how it would go about doing so. It is actually because of FR/LG in particular that I'm pretty pessimistic that any future "reboots" (or otherwise) of Gen I would honestly end up being minor revised versions of FR/LG in the first place, though I could be wrong on that end. That's just how I see it.

I really want to experience the Gen I games, but unfortunately it seems that, as someone who started off in the later generations (Gen II onwards mostly), Gen I doesn't have a whole lot to offer in comparison, which is why I can see where others like BettyNewbie come from when they wish for the story to be more fleshed out so it would be more enjoyable to the player.

And I realize that HG/SS offers a very limited scope into Kanto, but even when Kanto was re-remade then (you could very well argue that it's half of Kanto, but it's still "Kanto" as most people know it, regardless), but it also serves as more of a foundation for my cynicism and worries that any further remakes of Gen I would end up being similar, if not the same thing as the previous iterations, anyway. The focus seems to be much more on features and graphics rather than storyline and character enhancements and depth.

But I mean, I've kind of gotten into the perspective that you can't expect a lot of character development and story in Pokemon, anyway.

Yeah, after HGSS and ORAS committed many of the same "nostalgia-pandering" sins that ruined FRLG, it's hard not to be cynical about future remakes. (Which is why Gen 4 fans should be VERY careful what they wish for!) However, at the same time, both of those games still added more to their respective settings than FRLG did, and it's possible that GF would be more willing to change things up in a 2nd remake (since they'd want to set it apart from the older remakes).