Mega Mawile and Mega Beedrill

[Dragon]

So the two balls of death are back in form of Mega Mawile and Mega Beedrill; in other words, Mawilite and Beedrillite are now released for competitive play.

Knowing how Mega Mawile and Mega Beedrill performed during the XY scene, how do you think they will perform at the current metagame?

 

[PlatinumDude]

Mega Beedrill won't have to rely on Protect to Mega Evolve safely anymore, due to the new Mega Evolution mechanics, meaning it can get away with running both Knock Off and Drill Run:
-U-turn
-Poison Jab
-Knock Off
-Drill Run
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Beedrillite

 

[Sirfetch’d]

Was Mawile quickbanned or is it being allowed in OU right now?

 

[wolf]

Was Mawile quickbanned or is it being allowed in OU right now?

PS developers added it to OU. I assume there will be a suspect test after it's OU for a while. It's worth noting that Celesteela and Toxapex can check it pretty well. Sucker Punch nerf will help a little too.

 

[Nah]

Mega Bee benefits from the mega evolution speed/turn change, tho idk if it'll see huge use. It competes with other megas for your mega slot, and there's already Pheromosa as a Bug type glass cannon.

 

[gimmepie]

I feel like we might see M-Mawile remain in OU for a while tbh. Mostly because Sucker Punch was nerfed and that was probably one of the worst things about it as its painfully slow even with such a monstrous Attack and its defensive stats are pretty average.

I could see M-Beedrill in UU maybe but it's not going to get any use in OU with Pheromosa around. Pheromosa is objectively better and fulfills the same role without filling up a slot that would normally go to a Mega. Hell, it wasn't even considered OU before Pheromosa.

 

[5qwerty]

you guys are all talking about mega bee OR pheromosa

what about mega bee AND pheromosa (actually yeah what switches in to this)

Also, I think it's possible to run TPunch over Play Rough on Mawile. Although PR is STAB, it doesn't really offer too much in terms of coverage, and TPunch helps it deal with Toxapex/Celesteela. Everyone's talking about Sucker Punch, but what about Trick Room? We have some cool Trick Room users like Magearna (very versatile) and Mimikyu and it will be very interesting to see what kind of teams people build (maybe not Magearna since same typing, but who knows).

 

[Megan]

I know a lot of people at the end of ORAS where saying that getting back Mega Mawile would be a good idea. Well, we'll see how it fares in SM.

I think Mega Beedrill is going to be a solid UU mon when it drops; not having to run Protect, outspeeding annoying mons like Latias and Zam and decent coverage to hit a big chunk of good mons.

 

[wolf]

Also, I think it's possible to run TPunch over Play Rough on Mawile. Although PR is STAB, it doesn't really offer too much in terms of coverage, and TPunch helps it deal with Toxapex/Celesteela. Everyone's talking about Sucker Punch, but what about Trick Room? We have some cool Trick Room users like Magearna (very versatile) and Mimikyu and it will be very interesting to see what kind of teams people build (maybe not Magearna since same typing, but who knows).

Without Play Rough Mawile is walled by stuff like Lando, Chomp, and Rotom-W. PR is its most powerful move, and it's very spammable due to its neutral coverage. PR / SP / Fire Fang / TPunch could be fine. Dunno if it's worth foregoing SD for something to hit Toxapex with, though.

Sticky Web is an option too.