3rd Gen Marshtomp's Weakness

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    SHORT STORY:

    Which Pokemon is Marshtomp weak to?


    LONG STORY:
    Hi,

    My cousin and I have had a rivalry since the first the Red/Blue version on the GameBoy. Now, ever since the beginning, I've always chosen the "cute" Pokemon like Jigglypuff, Chansey, Oddish, Clefairy, Evee, etc., and needless to say, my cousin was always able to beat me easily.

    Now, we both have just started a challenge. Since our first semester of college is over and we both have time to kill, we've reignited our rivalry and we shall compete on Christmas Day... Now, he chose Mudkip, and I chose Torchic. We're both at the second stage of evolution (he's Marshtomp, I'm Combusken), and I would like to know Marshtomp's weakness. Like what Pokemon may I catch that will hit Marshtomp hard?


    Thanks!


    UPDATE: My cousin totally ruined the event last night because he leveled up his Pokemon to levels 34-35! I was pretty upset to say the least. He did a good job of ruining the whole match.
     
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    To be honest, Flash works nicely for disrupting in any low-level RSE matches (>25, forget it). Other than that, obviously get a fungus on your party...
     
    i think he meant a grass type but yeah marshtomp/swampert/wooper/quagsire are all hit hard by grass type moves
     
    I think since you like Peach so much you should get a Shroomish and evolve it. Itll be kinda Toadish and be super effective on his starter.
     
    i don't know how far you are in the game, but if you can catch a tropius, that would be perfect.
     
    I'd reccomend you get an Oddish, not a Shroomish. The reason is that you do not want two fighting types in your team who are suspecible to flying-type moves.

    I'd reccomend a Gardevoir, too since it can learn Icepunch, Firepunch and Thunderpunch which may provide a suprise to your friend when you next battle him. Yeah, Gardevoir can also learn Thunderbolt which you can get quite early in. They are rare and hard to train, but worth it.
     
    basically a grass type with great stats and moves can KO marshtomp.....
     
    Thanks everyone for your suggestions and assistance.

    Kozoi said:
    I'd reccomend a Gardevoir, too since it can learn Icepunch, Firepunch and Thunderpunch which may provide a suprise to your friend when you next battle him. Yeah, Gardevoir can also learn Thunderbolt which you can get quite early in. They are rare and hard to train, but worth it.
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    Oh yeah, I have a Kirlia right now that I'm leveling up- she's my secondary/Lieutenant Pokemon after Combusken.
     
    Well, Combusken should know Double Kick.

    That should do some damage along side its Peck attack.
     
    You should get a Gloom with Mega Drain (or Giga Drain?), that way it would be easier for you to defeat your cousin. Once you get a Leaf Stone, you should evolve your Gloom for higher stats on your newly evolved Vileplume.

    Good luck.
     
    Yeah. Listen to what everybody else is saying xD

    Grass types.
    They were/are the bane of my Swampert's existence, even with Ice Beam (seeing as Swampert isn't exactly fast...). A Breloom would outspeed a Marshtomp easily. Tropius wouldn't be bad either (immunity to ground types doesn't hurt, eh? xD)
     
    Personally, I wouldn't take any of the above advice. I am not sure how smart your friend is, but if I were him, I would make sure I had a Pokemon that covered Marshtomp's only weakness - Grass. An inexperience trainer will use Fire, exposing their team to further weaknesses, but a skilled opponent will use Flying.

    With that in mind, I would highly suggest you use Gengar as your Marshtomp counter. It has Levitate, which makes it immune to Ground attacks, and can learn Giga Drain (a OHKO against Swampert). Not only is a good counter for Marshtomp, but it can learn Thunderbolt, which can take out the probable Flying-type Pokemon that your friend would probably use. On top of that, Gengar is also one of the best special sweepers in the game. The only question is whether or not you can get yourself a Gengar.

    Good luck.
     
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    shanecdavis said:
    Personally, I wouldn't take any of the above advice. I am not sure how smart your friend is, but if I were him, I would make sure I had a Pokemon that covered Swampert's only weakness - Grass. An inexperience trainer will use Fire, exposing their team to further weaknesses, but a skilled opponent will use Flying.

    With that in mind, I would highly suggest you use Gengar as your Swampert counter. It has Levitate, which makes it immune to Ground attacks, and can learn Giga Drain (a OHKO against Swampert). Not only is a good counter for Swampert, but it can learn Thunderbolt, which can take out the probable Flying-type Pokemon that your friend would probably use. On top of that, Gengar is also one of the best special sweepers in the game. The only question is whether or not you can get yourself a Gengar.

    Good luck.
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    If you payed any attention, There both at level 30. As since I have been playing Pokemon Swampert isn't available at level 30.
     
    Shane, I'm pretty sure, that 'the above posters' clerified what to do. From what I see she's not a very experienced trainer, and even if they are, they have limited choices on what to do.
     
    Lolwut! No! You should have chosen Mudkip! It's cuter too.
    Marshtomp's only got one weakness - Grass. That, quite unfortunately, is covered by the most common move on Water Types - Ice Beam. If your friend's got Ice Beam, you're screwed. Get a Breloom/Tropius.
     
    SethCullen said:
    If you payed any attention, There both at level 30. As since I have been playing Pokemon Swampert isn't available at level 30.
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    Not sure what this has to do with anything, as Marshtomp is the same type as Swampert, but I changed my original post to prevent some people from getting confused.
     
    shanecdavis said:
    Personally, I wouldn't take any of the above advice. I am not sure how smart your friend is, but if I were him, I would make sure I had a Pokemon that covered Marshtomp's only weakness - Grass. An inexperience trainer will use Fire, exposing their team to further weaknesses, but a skilled opponent will use Flying.

    With that in mind, I would highly suggest you use Gengar as your Marshtomp counter. It has Levitate, which makes it immune to Ground attacks, and can learn Giga Drain (a OHKO against Swampert). Not only is a good counter for Marshtomp, but it can learn Thunderbolt, which can take out the probable Flying-type Pokemon that your friend would probably use. On top of that, Gengar is also one of the best special sweepers in the game. The only question is whether or not you can get yourself a Gengar.

    Good luck.
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    Good luck capturing Gastly in R/S. :cheeky:

    Naturally, both teams can be expected to do their best to cover weaknesses. Since Marshtomp is your main concern, I'd suggest going with a special wall that resists Earthquake--Marshtomp's main Physical attack. (or a weaker, low-level Ground equivalent)

    Claydol (Baltoy if you have a strict level rule and can't train) would be a good choice for this purpose, being immune to Earthquake. Without any EVs invested in HP/Sp.Def, he can still take at least two Surfs from a max Sp.Attack Marshtomp and KO with Solarbeam. (Too bad this isn't D/P, where he'd get the better option, Grass Knot.) Since EVs/IVs, or even Natures, aren't likely to be perfect, you'll probably be able to manage a third, or even a fourth hit if you make sure you have a +SDef Nature (Calm for this purpose) and lots of defensive EVs. You might like to have a Sunny Day assist from someone else on your team, such as Combusken, to remove the chargeup turn.

    Kirlia also learns Magical Leaf by tutor in FR/LG (but not if you evolve it!), so that's an option if you have them. Shane's Gengar is also an option if you have them.
     
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