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Legendaries connected to Greek Gods/Goddesses?

Mystery Soul

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    It didn't relly occur to me until a few days ago in History. We were studieing Greek mythology, my favorite historical subject, and I happened to be drawing a Fakemon. That's when it dawned on me, in Pokemon, much like in ancient Greece, people believe in dieties, such as Shaymin or Dialga, controlling natural causes such as earthquakes, time, life, etc. Greeks did the same and the freaky part is that both Greece and Pokemon have tons of Gods/Pokemon that represent different parts of nature and life(There are about 40-50 Legendaries, right? There are like 60-100 Gods and Goddesses in Greek mythology). Example, Kyogre controls the seas as their creator, Posideon in Greece controls the Waters as his domain. Is it me or is this more than a coincidence?
     
    There is nowhere near 50 legendary Pokemon but yes it is a lot like that. Its more like how each culture worships a load of different gods like the Egyptians, Native Americans and Greeks. Sinnh people dont care for Groudon and Kyogre.
     
    True. Each region does tend to ignore the Legendaries of other regions, but there are 34 Legendaries, counted...I think the purpose for it is to keep Pokemon games unreligious. The LAST thing we want is a group of religious freaks, no offense to any religious person. I am Chatholic myself, trying to shut down GF.
     
    No offense, but it took you that long to figure out? I knew this when I was nine...

    Ho-Oh - Apollo, God of the Sun
    Articuno - Poseidon, God of the Sea, Earthquakes, and Horses
    Zapdos - Zeus, God of Thunder and Lightning, Ruler of the Gods

    Just some examples there.
     
    *gently taps JD on the shoulder*
    Articuno /=/ water/water-types.

    Although I do see a couple of coincidences... that exact thought has never crossed my mind, about a direct correlation between a certain pantheon and the legendaries. Still, interesting food for thought.
     
    but not all the Legendaries are Connected to the Greek Gods. such as Darkrai, Deoxys, And Mewtwo
     
    Technically, they could be related, however, 2 entities control the sea.

    Manaphy, Prince of the Sea.
    And Kyogre.

    However, Manaphy is more of an Aphrodite than a Poseidon though...
     
    but not all the Legendaries are Connected to the Greek Gods. such as Darkrai, Deoxys, And Mewtwo

    although this is true for darkrai and mewtwo whose names are just plays on mew and dark, deoxys is actually related to greek and latin as well. deo- dirived from the latin word mutant or other worldly and xys- relating to the human genome.
     
    Actually, Darkrai is resemblent of the Greek God of Shadows, Erebus. Deoxys...Not so sure. And as for Manaphy, I see it as more of a Water Nymph. Here's the list I came up with:

    ~Sinnoh~
    Arceus-Chronos, Father of Zeus, God of all Titans and other entites.
    Dialga-???
    Palkia-???
    Cresselia-Diana, Goddess of the Moon
    Darkrai-Erebus, God of Shadows
    Manaphy & Phione-Water Nymphs
    Shaymin-Demeter, Goddess of the Harvest
    Heatran-Hepheastus, God of the Forge
    Giratina-Hades, God of the Underworld
    Mesprit, Uxie, and Azelf-The Fates
    Regigigas-Atlas, Holder of the World

    ~Hoenn~
    Groudon-Area, God of War
    Kyogre-Posideon, God of the Seas
    Rayquaza-Astreus, Titan of the Winds
    Jirachi-Athena, Goddess of Wisdom
    Deoxys-???
    Regirock, Regice, and Registeel-Golems
    Latias and Latios-The Twins

    ~Johto~
    Ho-Oh-Apollo, God of the Sun
    Lugia-???
    Suicune-Boreus, The North Wind
    Raikou-Eurus, The Eastern Wind
    Entei-Zephyrus, The Western Wind
    Celebi-Dione, The Oak Goddess/ And or a Dryad

    ~Kanto~
    Zapdos-Zeus, God of Thunder
    Articuno-The Roc, large beastly bird
    Moltres-Phoneix, Bird of Fire
    Mew-???
    Mewtwo-???
     
    Erm, are you mixing up mythologies?

    I'm pretty sure Artemis is the goddess of the sun in greek...
     
    although this is true for darkrai and mewtwo whose names are just plays on mew and dark, deoxys is actually related to greek and latin as well. deo- dirived from the latin word mutant or other worldly and xys- relating to the human genome.

    Actually, no. Deoxys' entire name is derived from deoxyribonucleic acid -- DNA.

    Additionally, I'll have to step in and say that a lot of the Pokémon are actually based on a variety of other cultures' mythologies. For example:

    Ho-oh: Asian phoenix.
    Moltres: Arabic phoenix (the kind that bursts into flames).
    Kyogre: Leviathan, an apocalyptic beast of the sea in Judaic mythology.
    Groudon: Behemoth, an apocalyptic beast of the sea in Judaic mythology.
    Rayquaza: A combination of the Asian dragon and Ziz, an apocalyptic beast of the sky in Judaic mythology.
    Zapdos: Thunderbird, Native American mythology.
    Jirachi: Implied to have come from the Arabic myth of genies, mixed with the simple tradition of wishing on a star.
    The four Regis: Golems, Judaic mythology.
    Cresselia: Combination of a swan and Sarimanok, a dream bird from Filipino mythology.

    And some are just based on ordinary creatures:

    Shaymin: Hedgehog.

    And the rest really goes from there. So, really, Pokémon doesn't just derive its legendaries from one base mythology. There may be traits that they share with some of the Greek and Roman deities, but really, their concepts relate more to mythological beasts, rather than human-shaped deities. Yeah, they're worshipped as deities to the people in the Pokémon world, but I really just think that what we're looking at here is more of a coincidence. As in, they're given traits of legendary beasts, and that just happens to correspond with some Greek and Roman deities. (Although, really, a lot of pantheons have pretty much the same sets of gods. For example, every or almost every pantheistic belief has a god of love or lust. Same thing with a god of wind and a god of water. So, really, it doesn't have to be Greek and Roman, either.)

    I guess what I'm trying to say is you might be able to have the legendaries correspond to different gods from classical mythology, but I really don't think that's what the creators intended.

    And yes, I used Bulbapedia to look up a lot of the above.
     
    It'll be Shinto dieties, if any; these games come from Japan, and Japan has its own pagan religion.

    But personally, I think legendary Pokemon are baseless as a group.
     
    Kyogre is most likely based on the Hebrew legends of the leviathan. They are depicted as crocodile and serpent-like creatures, while in later myths depicted as whales. It can also be based on Neptune, because 海王 (kaio, King of the Sea) would be the first characters in 海王星 (kaiosei, Neptune). Neptune being the roman god of the sea. It's most likely based on the leviathan than Neptune, since the leviathan has a earth / ground counterpart.

    Groudon would definitely be based on the legendary Hebrew behemoth, being the counterpart of the leviathan (Kyogre). It is said to be the ruler of all creatures on land.

    Being compared to Kyogre (leviathan) and Groudon (behemoth), Rayquaza could be theoretically the Ziz. The Ziz is the Hebrew god of the sky, so they all originate from the same religion practically.

    ~

    The Lake Trio, I'm almost certain, is based on the Imperial Regalia of Japan, also known as the three sacred treasures of Japan. The three treasures would be the sword, jewel, and the mirror. They theoretically resemble the three primary virtues: valor (meaning determination and boldness; sword; Azelf, being of willpower), acuity (meaning sharpness of mind and vision; mirror; Uxie, being of wisdom), and verity / benevolence (meaning truthful and good-willed; jewel; Mesprit, being of emotion).
     
    Actually, no. Deoxys' entire name is derived from deoxyribonucleic acid -- DNA.

    well that makes a lot of sense. i cant believe i actually forgot that wrd... it was one of the only big wrds I got right on my biology exam. well the source i got it from was right in the sense of the XY but I better go look about the deo part
     
    Technically Arceus, "The Creator" would be related to a Hindu god I learned about as well...Vishnu, the Hindu God of Creation while Lord Shiva is the destroyer...

    but yeah there is a bit of connection with multicultural gods...
     
    Arceus is definatly Kronos, but Kronos is a Titan, the Father of the main 12 Gods.
    Moltres, Zapdos, and Articuno could represent the big three: Hades, Zues, and Posideon, respectivly.
    Manaphy is more like a naiad, which is also a figure in Greek mythology.
    Shaymin could pass as Dionosys or Persephone and Demeter, the God of Wine who is also the God of Plants.
    Lati@s could pass as Hermes.
     
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