How do you think Solgaleo/Lunala will achieve their "Necromza" forms?

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    How do you think USUM will portray Solgaleo/Lunala's "Necromza" form? Why so?

    There's been a strong argument/speculation that Colress will be responsible for the Solgaleo/Lunala/Necromza forms due his appearance in SM & being involved with the Reshiram/Zekrom/Kyurem forms in B2W2. Do you agree with this theory? Why or why not?

    Unlike Colress being responsible for the Solgaleo/Lunala/Necromza forms, do you think the Aether Foundation will be responsible? If so, who do you think will be responsible? Lusamine? Fabian? Explain.

    Bonus Question: Do you think Team Skull will be involved with the Solgaleo/Lunala/Necromza forms? Explain. (It'll be the revamp of the century if Team Skull is responsible for these forms lmao)
     
    I doubt Colress will be directly involved with the main storyline since it would be a waste of the newly introduced characters' potential to place an older character instead. It's interesting speculation though.

    Aether is going to be closer in the plot most likely, I felt like there were so many loose threads that weren't expanded upon. Whether their role is good or bad is still up in the air.

    However, on the alternate universe theory, there's a chance Aether will be legitimately good and Team Skull a genuine threat (which is hard to imagine).

    On the Necromza forms... I really can't say anything about them since I don't really have any idea, but it just reminded me that S/M's code name was Pokemon Rainbow... So the color-thing might have some symbolism behind it.
     
    I'm guessing somebody will be responsible for the process rather than it being a natural thing. While it would be cool for it to be a natural occurrence, I can't imagine something so complex taking place without human intervention or use of a specific item (prism) similarly to past scenarios. I'd like Colress to be responsible for it all just for the sake of him actually having a purpose in Alola this time. It would also be a good way to connect B2W2 to USM in a roundabout way.

    Lusamine having the connection to the UB plot means she's also just as likely to be behind it all. Perhaps she wants to figure out how and why Solgaleo/Lunala/Necrozma are connected to each other, the UBs, and ultimately how the UBs first came about which I'm thinking will tie in with this whole fusion plot. Team Skull being responsible would be a totally curve ball and I'd be cool w that.
     
    I have no idea. There is not enough info to make guesses.
     
    I think it actually COULD be a natural occurence, because it honestly doesn't look like a fusion to me. More like Necrozma becomes battle armour, like the armour Mewtwo wears in the first Pokemon movie. It doesn't look like the Kyurem fusions to me, which were clearly forced. It looks like you could just slide it off and they'd go back to normal.

    That said, I think it highly likely that it happens through an item of some sort. Necrozma has a very suspicious-looking star shape on its back, after all - perhaps a part of it broke off? I suppose it COULD be forced to happen, but I think it is something that could probably happen on its own if the circumstances were right.
     
    I'm with Blue. It would be a good way to add more weight to why Colress appeared in Alola, as well as showing those similarities to B2/W2.
     
    I still stand by my connection with the fact that Unova might be involved in all of this. But, what remember what Colress was saying? To all you 'A' button spammers, Colress gave some long and depressing speech about how he would like to see the full potential of a Pokemon unleashed, even if it meant that Unova would be frozen, and two "innocent" Pokemon be spliced together against their will. So maybe he's psychotic or something. But he never seemed like that. Only oddly nostalgic and something of a good guy. So if you think about it, he may have a lot to do with all the fusions, but, but, but, there was also Grimsley. Do any of you think that it is a little strange what a Unova E4 member is doing in Alola? Maybe he visited because he noticed something. Maybe he realized a similarity between the Alola legendary trio, and the Unova dragons, all able to be sliced o something, and here he is, looking out for trouble. Also, Colress looks like he learned a lesson with Team Plasma, and he probably is just there to see what might happen, or maybe he is "just there" , with Grimsley. But Pokemon has always reintroduced numerous characters from past regions, examples being Crasher Wake, Grimsley and Colress, Red, Blue, and many others, so I wouldn't be surprised to see reappearances.
     
    Colress wanting to unlock the true potential of a Pokemon naturally, if he's involved, would suggest very strongly that the cover Legendaries will NOT be fusions in the same way Black/White Kyurem were. Given Colress' minimal involvement in S/M, I doubt he was lying when he said what he did in those games, so it would be completely illogical for him to just replicate the plot of B2W2 by forcing Necrozma to fuse with Solgaleo/Lunala.

    Not only that, but...well, the designs. Black/White Kyurem was an amalgamation of Kyurem and Reshiram/Zekrom, there were clear elements of both Pokemon in the final design. With Prism Solgaleo/Lunala, if you took the Necrozma parts off, you'd just have a glowing Solgaleo/Lunala with a little less colour than they usually have. I don't think they're true fusions, because they appear to be easily separated.

    Part of me wonders if they'll go with the out-of-control Legendary route again. Maybe Lillie won't keep Cosmog away from the Aether Foundation, they'll force it to evolve, it'll go nuts, and you'll need to get Necrozma to calm it down - perhaps the armour suppresses/focuses their powers. Or perhaps it'll be the other way around - Lillie will keep Cosmog, it'll evolve, and THEN the Aether Foundation will step in with Necrozma and bind it to their will by giving it the armour. Or something like that. It sounds cliche, but this is Pokemon; I don't think we can expect a huge plot twist or groundbreaking storytelling, because we've never had that.
     
    I think I'm now definitely with Meyneth's theory that Necrozma being used to suppress an out-of-control Solgaleo/Lunala may be the plot. Maybe Necrozma possesses hidden powers that can be used to calm a Pokemon.
     
    Hmmm...what do you guys think of the possibility of Battle Armour Solgaleo/Lunala being their original forms, with the forms they have in SM being alternate formes? I mean, Ultra Space is a hostile alien environment, so they'd need some sort of protection to travel there, right? And if they later lost that ability, or no longer had any use for it, why would they need the armour...and if they tossed it, why wouldn't it gain sentience? There are plenty of inanimate object Pokemon. I mean, Banette is just a discarded doll.

    I think it'd actually be pretty interesting if it turned out Necrozma was a discarded part of Solgaleo/Lunala, which would partially explain why its Pokedex entries descrie it as so angry all the time. It'd also make sense regarding its typing, the one type the two share between them, and explain its link to the Ultra Beasts. Maybe the two would be able to achieve that forme again through the Prism key item in the Japanese logos - or a similar item - but maybe it's not an alternate forme, but their actual original forme? Seems unlikely, but one thing I am pretty sure of is that they are not fusions in the same way Black/White Kyurem are, because if you take the armour off you have a slightly washed-out Solgaleo/Lunala, not something that looks completely different.
     
    For some reason I'm thinking the Tapus will be involved somehow. Because IIRC, Tapu Koko gives you the Z-ring in SM... and the new one shown in the USM trailer has an interesting black design to it, shown right after showing off the new Legendary forms. I've always felt that the Tapus should have had a bigger role in the story, maybe that might be It? I think Necrozma, Solgaleo, Lunala, the Tapus, and the UB's could all have a connection to the Z-crystals themselves.
     
    I also agree with Blue. When I saw Colress in the first game, I assumed that he would have something to do with the legendaries, but he ended up not doing much of anything.

    With B2W2 being the last games that I really enjoyed, I hope that he shows up, and tries the same thing that he did with Kyurem/Reshiram/Zekrom, to Solgaleo/Lunala/Necrozma.
     
    I sincerely doubt Colress has anything to do with Necrozma and the SM mascots. He seems to be just a character placed in SM as a reminder of B2W2.
     
    Alexander18 said:
    He seems to be just a character placed in SM as a reminder of B2W2.
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    I guess that's reasonable, but why B2W2 specifically if they don't share any similarities? It doesnt seems logical that GF added him to SUMO without a specific role unless it was to hint at role in USUM, or at least a story similarity between B2W2 and USUM.
     
    Phyrrhic said:
    I guess that's reasonable, but why B2W2 specifically if they don't share any similarities? It doesnt seems logical that GF added him to SUMO without a specific role unless it was to hint at role in USUM, or at least a story similarity between B2W2 and USUM.
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    Probably just coincidence. Grimsley also appears in SM even though he is in both BW and B2W2. I still doubt Colress involvement in USUM. Previous gen characters don't usually get the spotlight a couple gens later.
     
    I believe that they will be fusions of Solgaleo and Necrozma and Lunala and Necrozma. The ivs Nature and everything will be Solgaleo or Lunalas. I think it will be an item to do the fusion and Lusamine will get Ultra Solgaleo/Ultra Lunala before you stop her.
     
    I said it once before but it looks like they're being possesed by Necrozma to me tbh.
     
    I believe they can be fused naturally, but I'd like to believe it represents some kind of natural occurence. Maybe an eclipse?
     
    I have a theory that Necrozma is a pokemon that was born from Solgaleo and Lunala's discarded armor. In other words, this is how Solgaleo and Lunala originally looked in the time that the Alolan myths talk about, back when they first arrived in Alola from Ultra Space.
     
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