Focus Sash Shedinja?

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    I just faced one on PBR, to my utter horror. >_>

    It appears that it'll only be fainted from Sandstorm, Hail, Stealth Rock, Spikes, Toxic, Toxic Spikes, Will-o-wisp, Confuse Ray, Supersonic, or Leech Seed.

    Of those, I had none. So I lost.

    But the thing is, I don't think I managed to Crunch enough. It used Endure a few times, but the Focus Sash only kicked in once. So I am not 100% it would work again. Would it?
     
    Well, Focus Sash only works one time, so if it survived a hit, the Focus Sash saved it once, the endures kicked in for the rest I believe.
     
    yea... I always keep in mind shedinjas... the first time I fought one, what saved me was a FEAR rattata I had bred that had sucker punch... lol... it was in a battle where me and my buddy agreed to have 1 humiliating pokemon, EACH, on our teams.
     
    I utterly dislike Shedinja, mainly because it gets really annoying with Focus Sash. Then because I don't currently have a way to type-trump it. But I'm running a theme team at the moment anyways.
     
    yea.... literally... the only things to EV train on it, or to even bother with IVs are Attak, Sp. Atk(If you're really evil) and\or speed...

    a good shedinja to work on, IMO.. is the shedinja that you get from the nincada worthy of being your ninjask... lol...

    If you're using one and the person has nothing that can hit it.. the team is DONE. flat out DONE!...

    try and Role Play wonderguard in double battle....makes things even nastier.
     
    but i mean, how does it even do anything? XD

    if it keeps using focus sash and endure, it'll eventually die out as endure doesn't work consecutively. it can't get any faster, so i don't see how up against, let's say a weavile or gengar or hell, skarmory, shedinja manages to take them out with endure? it can probably stall with will-o-wisp, but it doesn't have swords dance, so how i see it, it's pretty much SOL.

    it does a good job walling popular CMers such as Suicune who can be impenetrable without a poke with explosion, blissey, and slowbro, so i guess i should give it more credit.

    EDIT: hmm, for those who are knowledgeable on the subject -- does shedinja get affected by roar and other non-damage inflicting moves that it isn't weak against?
     
    Yup, it actually does. Wonder Guard only protects Sheddy from damaging attacks, so things like Leech Seed, Sandstorm, even Future Sight will hit it, even if Wonder Guard would normally block damage from attacks of those types.
     
    try and Role Play wonderguard in double battle....makes things even nastier.

    Wonder Guard doesn't work with Role Play. Or anything else that'll let a Pokemon cop another's abilities. The game will always say that it failed.
     
    Yup, it actually does. Wonder Guard only protects Sheddy from damaging attacks, so things like Leech Seed, Sandstorm, even Future Sight will hit it, even if Wonder Guard would normally block damage from attacks of those types.

    oh thanks for that.

    well then i stand by my statement... it stinks XD
     
    lets say its a double battle...a pkmn like dusknoir uses the swap-ability attack on shedninja...BAMM
    dusknoir becomes Wonderguardful...lol
    would this work
     
    Well, Focus Sash only works one time, so if it survived a hit, the Focus Sash saved it once, the endures kicked in for the rest I believe.

    Are you sure about that? I was under the impression that Focus Sash works as long as you're at full health, so thus Focus Sash + Rapid Spinner + Wish support = pwnage to the extreme.

    However, if it does only work once under any circumstances, then it's far less scary. I've already faced a few people who like to abuse it, but then again I usually run a stall team, so it doesn't matter much to me, unless I'm packing a Starmie or Gengar.

    haha, I remember I used to run Focus Sash on my Rapid Spinner, which I realized in a BIG hurry was one of the stupidest things you could do. XD
     
    Why do you need wish support to a shedinja? Shedinga can be good for Grudge i guess. It also can take out Gengar if it still has sash. Shadow Claw=>Shadow Sneak.
     
    Are you sure about that? I was under the impression that Focus Sash works as long as you're at full health, so thus Focus Sash + Rapid Spinner + Wish support = pwnage to the extreme.

    However, if it does only work once under any circumstances, then it's far less scary. I've already faced a few people who like to abuse it, but then again I usually run a stall team, so it doesn't matter much to me, unless I'm packing a Starmie or Gengar.

    haha, I remember I used to run Focus Sash on my Rapid Spinner, which I realized in a BIG hurry was one of the stupidest things you could do. XD

    I believe it is one use.

    Once, at an in-game battle, I survived with Focus Sash. Afterward, I realized that it was gone for good, a one-use item like berries. I soft-reset right there.
     
    Trace copies Wonder Guard. But nothing else does. And Shadow Claw will OHKO Gengar.
     
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