Flygon vs Salamence

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    These guys have been compared all the time because they are in the same region, Hoenn.there are both really strong Dragons! but the truth is that Salamence has a stronger attack...in a battle a Salamence wud win... Flygon looks cooler though, the Desert Spirit what a nice name... but in Desert combat Salamence vs Flygon, Flygon wud win.... who wud u pick??? u already kmow who im gonnna Pick
     
    I'll go with Salamence because of his Speed and Attack. It'll be a killer with a Dragon Dance boost.
     
    In most cases, Salamence will win through pure advantage.

    The first hurdle Flygon must overcome is the war of speed. Naive Salamence often run 252 Speed, meaning it's at absolute max. Flygon must be Scarfed, or a custom (and therefore non-recommended) set with a +Speed nature and 252 Speed EV's. If the latter is the case, it must then beat the Speed tie or get owned by Draco Meteor/Outrage/Dragon Claw.

    The next hurdle Flygon must overcome is to not become Intimidated by Salamence. I'm not going to do calculations, but it's safe to assume a -1 Outrage won't OHKO Salamence, while Salamence will probably easily OHKO Flygon back with Draco Meteor/Outrage, and possibly with Dragon Claw as well..

    So in this case, Flygon and Salamence shouldn't be sent out at the same time. That leaves Flygon few opportunities to switch in, unless you bait Salamence with a strong Steel-type that can live more than 2 unboosted Draco Meteors/Outrages/Dragon Claws.

    And if you switch in, it'll likely be to a Dragon Dance. This completely screws Flygon over, as you'd have to again be running max Speed and a Choice Scarf to even hope to OHKO it, by beating the speed tie.

    However, this is eased by the fact that Dragon Dance and Draco Meteor are rarely seen on the same set. However, Dragon Claw and Outrage are good substitutes that will probably do the job just as well, which can provide a lot more problems for Flygon.

    Salamence will win a lot of the time, but Flygon, if given the opportunity, can triumph over Salamence.
     
    what i say!! Salamence overall will be better then Flygon

    i still think Flygon is still cooler then Salamence even though he is stronger!
     
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    I would say Salamence, but I agree that Flygon is cooler. :)
     
    DonRoyale said:
    The next hurdle Flygon must overcome is to not become Intimidated by Salamence. I'm not going to do calculations, but it's safe to assume a -1 Outrage won't OHKO Salamence, while Salamence will probably easily OHKO Flygon back with Draco Meteor/Outrage, and possibly with Dragon Claw as well..
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    Positive 252 Atk Flygon has a small chance of OHKOing Salamence. Damage is 88.22% - 103.63%.

    Anyways, I agree with DonRoyale's post.
     
    That gives it roughly a 20% chance to OHKO. :V
     
    thats a low percentage!! 20% wow

    HMMMMMMMMM? Is dreagonite is better the Salamence
     
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    water cyndaquill??? How strong is intimidate??

    i gotta say though Salamnce has a beast Attck!!he is really strong>> amazing stats
     
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    I still hate the fact that the both of them have a 4X weakness to Ice type moves

    I've used both of them in Pokemon matches and the one that helped me the most is Salamance, so I'm going with Sally


    :t354:TG
     
    Hmm....

    Flygon has speed, but Salamence has Power, Intimidate, and...Dragon Dance spam, if its alive long enough to do it a lot that is. DD will OHKO move on Flygon with DC. So I'm saying Salamence
     
    O salamence is the wnner but....Flygon is still cool lookin

    but keep this thread keep goin please..keep it goin
     
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    I agree with the majority of others, Salamence would most likely win in a battle (based on the games that is), but Flygon's cooler, and that's more important :D Flygon is also a desert pokemon, my favourites :)

    Salamence always looked a bit too... wide, to me XD
     
    Salamence is a freakin beast. Period. Plus, his wings look like axes. Graphically speaking, I tend to be drawn by tough looking Pokemon rather than cute ones. Sorry, Flygon.
     
    63% of Flygon run Choice Scarf, so it will outrun Salamence. But, after Intimidate, Outrage will not OHKO. Unless, this is an actual battle between 6 vs 6 teams instead of a 1 vs 1 match, Flygon would win because after Stealth Rock damage Outrage OHKOs. 69% of Salamence run Life Orb or Leftovers, so usually Flygon will outspeed. 19% of Flygon use Choice Band with Adamant, and those will automatically lose to Naive Salamence (which majority of Salamence have). If it is a Adamant, Mild, or Rash Salamence, it will force a Speed tie.

    So basically, Salamence wins most of the time during a 1 vs 1 match with Flygon. Where as, Flygon would win majority of the time in a 6 vs 6 due to Stealth Rock being up, which is the third most used move today.

    Design wise, I have to go with Salamence, though I still like Flygon a lot.
     
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