dreemxweever
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Im not sure if this would be the right area to start a thread for training your pokes with effort values, but what the hey.. they can always move it.
Now how could you use these to your advantage? well here's another example: you want to make the perfect team with the perfect movesets and all of that good stuff. Well, say you wanted to make a team with....a beedrill, and you dont have another good defense dominant poke (which i dont recomend, but whatever floats your boat). You could train your weedle from lv 3 all the way up to a beedrill maybe lv 25, only fainting defense dominant pokes to lv up (exluding the trainers, even if they have defense dominant pokemon). Youd have a lot of defense EVs on your hands, also a lot of time. But one thing I should probably mention. Theres a limited amount of EVs you poke can have before the certain stats stop lving up. In one poke, you can gain up to 510 EVs. Now if you divy that up by 4 (4 EVs for each point in one stat) you're going to come out with about 128 extra points in one stat. Now Beedrill's base stats in defense are 40, and that may not seem like a lot. but after a load of battles and you have 128 extra EVs for defense, it starts to add up really fast. especially if your beedrill is still lv 30. This reason is exactly why Nintendo put caps on ever stat.
What this means is, for every stat, there is a set limit, just like the poke, that you cant go over. And that cap is 255 for every stat. Now class, whats 255+255? thats right johnny, 510! So what does that tell you? Mhm, you can either be extremly dull, also strategic, and buff up your poke in only two areas (255 for each) OR you can be creative and mix it up a bit between three, four, maybe all of them (i dont reccomend that either) So if that all makes sense, its about to make more sense and maybe get a little easier for every lazy bum out there (dont worry, I am too).
The Macho Brace, Vitamins and the infamous POkE-rUS. These things are basicly gifts from the pokemon god... without them we'd all be sitting battling geodudes and kakunas for weeks to get defense stats. What do these do? good question. I'll start with the macho brace. Macho Brace is what you get from that family in the house north of Muaville in R/S/E. It looks like nothing, and may seem to do nothing to all you newbies who dont know about EVs, but the fact of the matter is, Macho Brace doubles all of your gained EVs in battle. EX: My pidgy is wearing a macho brace, rattata gives out one speed EV per faint (ill get to this in a sec) i faint it: I get double the EVs rattatas give out, Henceforth i get two. This makes EV training a lot less a pain in the neck as it already is.
Next, Vitamins. Vitamins... we all know what they are. They give your little poke some extra energy in one stat. Actually, a lot extra energy. It turns out, every vitamin gives +10 points to each stat. Im talking +10 EVs. When you're EV training, thats a heckload better than battling geodudes. But sadly again, there is a cap on how many Vitamins you can use. With vitamins, each poke can only earn extra points in each stat. so.. whats 100 divided by 10? anyone? Its 10. Simple explanation, 10 vitamins per stat in a poke. Go back to my beedrill story. I already trained her/him +128 in defense, lets give him an extra 100 points in defense with some calcium. Thats about an extra 25. so right now, my beedrill is at a max of 193 in pure EV training (base stat=40+128+25) and it's max defense stat is 161, so already before using the vitamins I've maxed my beedrill out. thats another 980,000 i get to keep that i wouldve invested in vitamins.
So how do you get these EVs anyways? well, if you havnt figured it out yet, your an idiot, but ill tell you anyway. What you have to do to get a certain EV is battle a poke with its dominant stat being the stat you want to raise, and faint it. I really dont need to explain this in detail, but I'll list every single original poke from R/B/Y and what EVs they give. Remember, a poke can give up to 3 EVs, and it can give them out in more than one stat. (EX: venesaur gives one in defense and two in sp. attack.) Heres the list:
HP:
Caterpie
1 Point
Nidoran (F)
1 Point
Nidorina
2 Points
Nidoqueen
3 Points
Clefairy
2 Points
Clefable
3 Points
Jigglypuff
2 Points
Wigglytuff
3 Points
Slowpoke
1 Point
Grimer
1 Point
Muk
1 Point *
Lickitung
2 Points
Chansey
2 Points
Kangaskhan
2 Points
Lapras
2 Points
Ditto
1 Point
Vaporeon
2 Points
Snorlax
2 Points
Mew
3 Points
Atk:
Beedrill
2 Points *
#023
Ekans
1 Point
#024
Arbok
2 Points
#032
Nidoran (M)
1 Point
#033
Nidorino
2 Points
#034
Nidoking
3 Points
#046
Paras
1 Point
#047
Parasect
2 Points *
#056
Mankey
1 Point
#057
Primape
2 Points
#058
Growlithe
1 Point
#059
Arcanine
2 Points
#066
Machop
1 Point
#067
Machoke
2 Points
#068
Machamp
3 Points
#069
Bellsprout
1 Point
#070
Weepinbell
2 Points
#071
Victreebel
3 Points
#089
Muk
1 Point *
#098
Krabby
1 Point
#099
Kingler
2 Points
#106
Hitmonlee
2 Points
#112
Rhydon
2 Points
#118
Goldeen
1 Point
#119
Seaking
2 Points
#123
Scyther
1 Point
#127
Pinsir
2 Points
#128
Tauros
1 Point *
#130
Gyarados
2 Points
#136
Flareon
2 Points
#147
Dratini
1 Point
#148
Dragonair
2 Points
#149
Dragonite
3 Points
Def:
Squirtle
1 Point
#008
Wartortle
2 Points *
#011
Metapod
2 Points
#014
Kakuna
2 Points
#027
Sandshrew
1 Point
#028
Sandslash
2 Points
#047
Parasect
1 Point *
#062
Poliwrath
3 Points
#074
Geodude
1 Point
#075
Graveler
2 Points
#076
Golem
3 Points
#080
Slowbro
2 Points
#090
Shellder
1 Point
#091
Cloyster
2 Points
#095
Onix
1 Point
#102
Exeggcute
1 Point
#104
Cubone
1 Point
#105
Marowak
2 Points
#109
Koffing
1 Point
#110
Weezing
2 Points
#111
Rhyhorn
1 Point
#114
Tangela
1 Point
#117
Seadra
1 Point *
#138
Omanyte
1 Point
#139
Omastar
2 Points
#140
Kabuto
1 Point
#141
Kabutops
2 Points
Spd:
Charmander
1 Point
#005
Charmeleon
1 Point *
#013
Weedle
1 Point
#016
Pidgey
1 Point
#017
Pidgeotto
2 Points
#018
Pidgeot
3 Points
#019
Rattata
1 Point
#020
Raticate
2 Points
#021
Spearow
1 Point
#022
Fearow
2 Points
#025
Pikachu
2 Points
#026
Raichu
3 Points
#037
Vulpix
1 Point
#038
Ninetales
1 Point *
#041
Zubat
1 Point
#042
Golbat
2 Points
#049
Venomoth
1 Point *
#050
Diglett
1 Point
#051
Dugtrio
2 Points
#052
Meowth
1 Point
#53
Persian
2 Points
#060
Poliwag
1 Point
#061
Poliwhirl
2 Points
#077
Ponyta
1 Point
#078
Rapidash
2 Points
#100
Voltorb
1 Point
#101
Electrode
2 Points
#120
Staryu
1 Point
#121
Starmie
2 Points
#125
Electabuzz
2 Points
#128
Tauros
1 Point *
#129
Magikarp
1 Point
#135
Jolteon
2 Points
#142
Aerodactyl
2 Points
Sp. Atk:
Bulbasaur
1 Point
#002
Ivysaur
1 Point *
#003
Venusaur
2 Points *
#005
Charmeleon
1 Point *
#006
Charizard
3 Points
#012
Butterfree
2 Points *
#043
Oddish
1 Point
#044
Gloom
2 Points
#045
Vileplume
3 Points
#049
Venomoth
1 Point *
#054
Psyduck
1 Point
#055
Golduck
2 Points
#063
Abra
1 Point
#064
Kadabra
2 Points
#065
Alakazam
3 Points
#081
Magnemite
1 Point
#082
Magneton
2 Points
#092
Gastly
1 Point
#093
Haunter
2 Points
#094
Gengar
3 Points
#103
Exeggutor
2 Points
#116
Horsea
1 Point
#117
Seadra
1 Point *
#124
Jynx
2 Point
#126
Magmar
2 Points
#137
Porygon
1 Point
#145
Zapdos
3 Points
#146
Moltres
3 Points
#150
Mewtwo
3 Points
Sp. Def:
Ivysaur
1 Point *
#003
Venusaur
1 Point *
#008
Wartortle
1 Point *
#009
Blastoise
3 Points
#012
Butterfree
1 Point *
#015
Beedrill
1 Point *
#038
Ninetales
1 Point *
#048
Venonat
1 Point
#072
Tentacool
1 Point
#073
Tentacruel
1 Point
#096
Drowzee
1 Point
#097
Hypno
2 Points
#107
Hitmonchan
2 Points
#122
Mr. Mime
2 Points
#133
Eevee
1 Point
#144
Articuno
3 Points
And thats it. thanks to serebii.net for the listings. you can go there and try to find the lists if you don't understand that, but mines pretty straightforward. Feel free to ask me any questions you may have. Oh, and a "*" next to the name means they give point(s) to more than one stat.
Effort Values.
Right now I'm basicly going to explain 1.what effort values are 2. how you can use them to your advantage, and 3.how to get these mysterious things.
K, for starters, EV means Effort Values, most of you shouldve gotten that, but what are effort values anyways, dreemxweever? Wll im glad you asked. EVs are what any pokemon has in their stats. In any stat, there are exactly four Evs in a level. To make that easier, say this: you want to level up your pidgy, but you want it to have amazing speed. Well, what you can do is find a pokemon dominant in the SPEED stat, and keep fainting those certain pokemon. As for the 4 EVs, as soon as you faint 4 pokemon i mentioned, you get 1 extra speed stat. But when you level up, the EVs reset. Making sense? Effort values are also basicly just hidden values. This also means you can't just look into your Pikachu's statistics and see how many EVs you have for your Pikachu. Making this said easier, I would advise anyone to develope a chart for all six stats and record with tallies how many Ev's your pokemon has.Right now I'm basicly going to explain 1.what effort values are 2. how you can use them to your advantage, and 3.how to get these mysterious things.
Now how could you use these to your advantage? well here's another example: you want to make the perfect team with the perfect movesets and all of that good stuff. Well, say you wanted to make a team with....a beedrill, and you dont have another good defense dominant poke (which i dont recomend, but whatever floats your boat). You could train your weedle from lv 3 all the way up to a beedrill maybe lv 25, only fainting defense dominant pokes to lv up (exluding the trainers, even if they have defense dominant pokemon). Youd have a lot of defense EVs on your hands, also a lot of time. But one thing I should probably mention. Theres a limited amount of EVs you poke can have before the certain stats stop lving up. In one poke, you can gain up to 510 EVs. Now if you divy that up by 4 (4 EVs for each point in one stat) you're going to come out with about 128 extra points in one stat. Now Beedrill's base stats in defense are 40, and that may not seem like a lot. but after a load of battles and you have 128 extra EVs for defense, it starts to add up really fast. especially if your beedrill is still lv 30. This reason is exactly why Nintendo put caps on ever stat.
What this means is, for every stat, there is a set limit, just like the poke, that you cant go over. And that cap is 255 for every stat. Now class, whats 255+255? thats right johnny, 510! So what does that tell you? Mhm, you can either be extremly dull, also strategic, and buff up your poke in only two areas (255 for each) OR you can be creative and mix it up a bit between three, four, maybe all of them (i dont reccomend that either) So if that all makes sense, its about to make more sense and maybe get a little easier for every lazy bum out there (dont worry, I am too).
The Macho Brace, Vitamins and the infamous POkE-rUS. These things are basicly gifts from the pokemon god... without them we'd all be sitting battling geodudes and kakunas for weeks to get defense stats. What do these do? good question. I'll start with the macho brace. Macho Brace is what you get from that family in the house north of Muaville in R/S/E. It looks like nothing, and may seem to do nothing to all you newbies who dont know about EVs, but the fact of the matter is, Macho Brace doubles all of your gained EVs in battle. EX: My pidgy is wearing a macho brace, rattata gives out one speed EV per faint (ill get to this in a sec) i faint it: I get double the EVs rattatas give out, Henceforth i get two. This makes EV training a lot less a pain in the neck as it already is.
Next, Vitamins. Vitamins... we all know what they are. They give your little poke some extra energy in one stat. Actually, a lot extra energy. It turns out, every vitamin gives +10 points to each stat. Im talking +10 EVs. When you're EV training, thats a heckload better than battling geodudes. But sadly again, there is a cap on how many Vitamins you can use. With vitamins, each poke can only earn extra points in each stat. so.. whats 100 divided by 10? anyone? Its 10. Simple explanation, 10 vitamins per stat in a poke. Go back to my beedrill story. I already trained her/him +128 in defense, lets give him an extra 100 points in defense with some calcium. Thats about an extra 25. so right now, my beedrill is at a max of 193 in pure EV training (base stat=40+128+25) and it's max defense stat is 161, so already before using the vitamins I've maxed my beedrill out. thats another 980,000 i get to keep that i wouldve invested in vitamins.
So how do you get these EVs anyways? well, if you havnt figured it out yet, your an idiot, but ill tell you anyway. What you have to do to get a certain EV is battle a poke with its dominant stat being the stat you want to raise, and faint it. I really dont need to explain this in detail, but I'll list every single original poke from R/B/Y and what EVs they give. Remember, a poke can give up to 3 EVs, and it can give them out in more than one stat. (EX: venesaur gives one in defense and two in sp. attack.) Heres the list:
HP:
Caterpie
1 Point
Nidoran (F)
1 Point
Nidorina
2 Points
Nidoqueen
3 Points
Clefairy
2 Points
Clefable
3 Points
Jigglypuff
2 Points
Wigglytuff
3 Points
Slowpoke
1 Point
Grimer
1 Point
Muk
1 Point *
Lickitung
2 Points
Chansey
2 Points
Kangaskhan
2 Points
Lapras
2 Points
Ditto
1 Point
Vaporeon
2 Points
Snorlax
2 Points
Mew
3 Points
Atk:
Beedrill
2 Points *
#023
Ekans
1 Point
#024
Arbok
2 Points
#032
Nidoran (M)
1 Point
#033
Nidorino
2 Points
#034
Nidoking
3 Points
#046
Paras
1 Point
#047
Parasect
2 Points *
#056
Mankey
1 Point
#057
Primape
2 Points
#058
Growlithe
1 Point
#059
Arcanine
2 Points
#066
Machop
1 Point
#067
Machoke
2 Points
#068
Machamp
3 Points
#069
Bellsprout
1 Point
#070
Weepinbell
2 Points
#071
Victreebel
3 Points
#089
Muk
1 Point *
#098
Krabby
1 Point
#099
Kingler
2 Points
#106
Hitmonlee
2 Points
#112
Rhydon
2 Points
#118
Goldeen
1 Point
#119
Seaking
2 Points
#123
Scyther
1 Point
#127
Pinsir
2 Points
#128
Tauros
1 Point *
#130
Gyarados
2 Points
#136
Flareon
2 Points
#147
Dratini
1 Point
#148
Dragonair
2 Points
#149
Dragonite
3 Points
Def:
Squirtle
1 Point
#008
Wartortle
2 Points *
#011
Metapod
2 Points
#014
Kakuna
2 Points
#027
Sandshrew
1 Point
#028
Sandslash
2 Points
#047
Parasect
1 Point *
#062
Poliwrath
3 Points
#074
Geodude
1 Point
#075
Graveler
2 Points
#076
Golem
3 Points
#080
Slowbro
2 Points
#090
Shellder
1 Point
#091
Cloyster
2 Points
#095
Onix
1 Point
#102
Exeggcute
1 Point
#104
Cubone
1 Point
#105
Marowak
2 Points
#109
Koffing
1 Point
#110
Weezing
2 Points
#111
Rhyhorn
1 Point
#114
Tangela
1 Point
#117
Seadra
1 Point *
#138
Omanyte
1 Point
#139
Omastar
2 Points
#140
Kabuto
1 Point
#141
Kabutops
2 Points
Spd:
Charmander
1 Point
#005
Charmeleon
1 Point *
#013
Weedle
1 Point
#016
Pidgey
1 Point
#017
Pidgeotto
2 Points
#018
Pidgeot
3 Points
#019
Rattata
1 Point
#020
Raticate
2 Points
#021
Spearow
1 Point
#022
Fearow
2 Points
#025
Pikachu
2 Points
#026
Raichu
3 Points
#037
Vulpix
1 Point
#038
Ninetales
1 Point *
#041
Zubat
1 Point
#042
Golbat
2 Points
#049
Venomoth
1 Point *
#050
Diglett
1 Point
#051
Dugtrio
2 Points
#052
Meowth
1 Point
#53
Persian
2 Points
#060
Poliwag
1 Point
#061
Poliwhirl
2 Points
#077
Ponyta
1 Point
#078
Rapidash
2 Points
#100
Voltorb
1 Point
#101
Electrode
2 Points
#120
Staryu
1 Point
#121
Starmie
2 Points
#125
Electabuzz
2 Points
#128
Tauros
1 Point *
#129
Magikarp
1 Point
#135
Jolteon
2 Points
#142
Aerodactyl
2 Points
Sp. Atk:
Bulbasaur
1 Point
#002
Ivysaur
1 Point *
#003
Venusaur
2 Points *
#005
Charmeleon
1 Point *
#006
Charizard
3 Points
#012
Butterfree
2 Points *
#043
Oddish
1 Point
#044
Gloom
2 Points
#045
Vileplume
3 Points
#049
Venomoth
1 Point *
#054
Psyduck
1 Point
#055
Golduck
2 Points
#063
Abra
1 Point
#064
Kadabra
2 Points
#065
Alakazam
3 Points
#081
Magnemite
1 Point
#082
Magneton
2 Points
#092
Gastly
1 Point
#093
Haunter
2 Points
#094
Gengar
3 Points
#103
Exeggutor
2 Points
#116
Horsea
1 Point
#117
Seadra
1 Point *
#124
Jynx
2 Point
#126
Magmar
2 Points
#137
Porygon
1 Point
#145
Zapdos
3 Points
#146
Moltres
3 Points
#150
Mewtwo
3 Points
Sp. Def:
Ivysaur
1 Point *
#003
Venusaur
1 Point *
#008
Wartortle
1 Point *
#009
Blastoise
3 Points
#012
Butterfree
1 Point *
#015
Beedrill
1 Point *
#038
Ninetales
1 Point *
#048
Venonat
1 Point
#072
Tentacool
1 Point
#073
Tentacruel
1 Point
#096
Drowzee
1 Point
#097
Hypno
2 Points
#107
Hitmonchan
2 Points
#122
Mr. Mime
2 Points
#133
Eevee
1 Point
#144
Articuno
3 Points
And thats it. thanks to serebii.net for the listings. you can go there and try to find the lists if you don't understand that, but mines pretty straightforward. Feel free to ask me any questions you may have. Oh, and a "*" next to the name means they give point(s) to more than one stat.
