Entei? What's that? Some NU poke, right?

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    Okay, this is for 3RD GEN. Now that that's out of the way...

    Basically, I've used both raikou and suicune, and both are very impressive. Still, I wish entei was better. Its poor movepool and odd stat distribution have knida made it obsolete...but I have wanted to use it for some time. I'm unaware of the standard, so go easy on me :) This was what I plan on using:

    Entei @ Leichi Berry
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 136 HP / 136 Atk / 236 Spd
    Naive Nature (+Spd, SDef-)
    - Substitute
    - Hidden Power [Fighting]
    - Flamethrower
    - Calm Mind

    This is meh. With these EVs, Entei has 405 HP, which allows it to get to 1 HP and activate the Leichi berry. I've never used this sort of strategy before, so yeah. HP fighting lols at blissey and the 101 sub does as well. I can then CM up and super-charge flamethrower. Entei gets exactly 300 Attack as well with these EVs (yeah, I'm a numbers freak) and add the leichi and it's 450. So it's like a mixed sweeper. the rest of the EVs are in speed to give it...speed...however, in the ecvent this set is made of epic fail, I've created a backup:

    Entei @ Salac Berry
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 136 HP / 152 Spd / 220 SAtk
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Substitute / Rest
    - Calm Mind / Sleep Talk
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Flamethrower

    Special sweeper. Same concept, only a special hidden power. It gets 300 speed to beat non-jolly mence. CM up, salac gives you godly speed to sweep the day away. I can also go resttalker.


    As you can see, I'm unsure. suggestions?
     
    You could go sunny beamer.
     
    you could always use it supportively w/ reflect.

    i'm not a fan of having hp values on legendaries, regardless if it's netbattle or not =/
     
    Samson said:
    you could always use it supportively w/ reflect.

    I thought of that, but I couldn't think of a set that would fit it well. any ideas?

    i'm not a fan of having hp values on legendaries, regardless if it's netbattle or not =/

    Why?
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    Do my sets work, or is there some standard I'm missing? As you can see, I'm n00b-licious with Entei, and proud.

    EDIT: and I hate the sunnybeamer set to be honest. I hate almost all sunnybeamers acvtually.
     
    Bleach and Sunshine, don't post 4th generation suggestions for 3rd gen teams/Pokémon.
     
    Smarties-chan said:
    Bleach and Sunshine, don't post 4th generation suggestions for 3rd gen teams/Pokémon.
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    Ah..

    My Mistake. D;

    Entei @ Salac Berry
    Nature: Timid
    EV:252 HP/ 200 Spd/ 56 Sp Atk
    -Calm Mind
    -Flamethrower
    -Hidden Power Grass
    -Bite
     
    Hey Anti-Pop, made an addition to my sig, Im using it as insurance.

    Techinically Resttalker isnt impossible, Sleep Talk is an Emerald Tutor Move, so you COULD go

    Entei-Leftovers or something
    Timid?
    Rest
    Sleep Talk
    Flamethrower
    Hidden Power Fighting
     
    I dids, forgots about him for a sec. And duh you;re on the list. And Entei, despite his attack ebing better, has almost 0 attacking moves, so hes a special sweeper.
     
    Don't forget the forum mod on the list :/

    But yeah, Since I hate blissey...how's this?

    Entei @ Leftovers / Leichi Berry / Salac Berry
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: I need help here
    Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
    - Rest / random attack
    - Sleep Talk
    - Flamethrower
    - Hidden Power [Fighting]

    I was thinking I could switch into spore from breloom and not worry about carrying rest...but does this do? I tried to combine all the sets..
     
    Wha? Where's Iron tail? It's, like, the best Physical Move Ever! And Entei is one of the lucky few Pokemon who have tails and thus can use it! I covers Rock and Ice types pretty well. :B

    In all seriousness, you should get try to save up money to get a DS and D/P. It gets Stone Edge and the a Physical STAB move (Though you're better off going with the Stonger, special-based Fire moves instead)

    Even then, Entei is a lackluster Legendary. Unlike its brethren, it still hasn't gotten much of an improvement in its attacking movepool.

    The people that posted before me pretty much covered what it is capable of doing in the 3rd Gen :/
     
    Dunsparce said:
    Wha? Where's Iron tail? It's, like, the best Physical Move Ever! And Entei is one of the lucky few Pokemon who have tails and thus can use it! I covers Rock and Ice types pretty well. :B

    That better be a joke...

    In all seriousness, you should get try to save up money to get a DS and D/P. It gets Stone Edge and the a Physical STAB move (Though you're better off going with the Stonger, special-based Fire moves instead)

    The 4th gen metagame is the most boring one I've ever played in, so no.

    Even then, Entei is a lackluster Legendary. Unlike its brethren, it still hasn't gotten much of an improvement in its attacking movepool.

    But I use my favorite pokemon ;)

    The people that posted before me pretty much covered what it is capable of doing in the 3rd Gen :/
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    So does my set work? that's where I'm gettin' at here...

    Now I have to vent about the 4th gen metagame for a sec. they made everythign so much easier in D/P. they made it more offense-based, so stall teams aren't common anymore. Just look at what they added: Trick room, stealth rock, gyro ball...where's the D? IMO, 3rd gen is by far the best competitive battling experience you can get.

    EDIT: MW, I think he was kidding. and yeah, besides rating here at PC, I want NOTHING to do with 4th gen.
     
    -__-;

    I was being SARCASTIC.

    Doesn't the Bucktooth emotiocon give it away? (THIS :B )

    I'm sorry, I didn't realize you hated the fourth gen. The last thing I want to do is get on any of your bad sides. >.<;

    I like using my favs, too. Ariados, Parasect, Kingler, ect.
     
    Dunsparce said:
    -__-;

    I was being SARCASTIC.

    Doesn't the Bucktooth emotiocon give it away? (THIS :B )

    I'm sorry, I didn't realize you hated the fourth gen. The last thing I want to do is get on any of your bad sides. >.<;
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    Not at all :)

    I was just pointing out my hatred of D/P. Wasn't in any way trying to express anger, my bad :)
     
    Dunsparce said:
    It's okay :)

    I understand that you like to use your favs, as do I. Why else would I name myself Dunsparce? XD
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    In 4 months, change it to dundisgrace. SLAM! lol jk

    Okay, joking aside, does my set work?
     
    Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 said:
    In 4 months, change it to dundisgrace. SLAM! lol jk

    Okay, joking aside, does my set work?
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    why four months? I joined in '05.

    I believe your set works fine for ingame. At least HP Fighting is SE against Rock and hits Blissey hard.

    HP Grass hits all 3 of its weaknesses, but, seeing your fear of Blissey, HP Fighting works well, seeing how it works off of Entei's impressive Attack stat and hits the pink blob for SE damage :)
     
    Dunsparce said:
    why four months? I joined in '05.

    I believe your set works fine for ingame. At least HP Fighting is SE against Rock and hits Blissey hard.

    HP Grass hits all 3 of its weaknesses, but, seeing your fear of Blissey, HP Fighting works well, seeing how it works off of Entei's impressive Attack stat and hits the pink blob for SE damage :)
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    this isn't for ingame :/ It's for Netbattle...

    I DO fear blissey, as jirachi outstalls it, but it falls to EQ (and it often does) which leaves me susceptible to bliss loling at me, and the IB variant OHKO my CBmence. THAT'S why I like entei. Skarmbliss killer.
     
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