Endless Battles despite the ban

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    You've most probably heard of the mighty Funbro, a troll strategy torture device used to create endless battles by holding a Leppa Berry and Recycling it when needed, so it doesn't lose any PP, Slacks Off when necessary, and Heal Pulses the enemy so he doesn't die to Struggle recoil. It also carries Block so when it gets a target that can't 2HKO him it won't be able to switch out.

    Slowbro @ Leppa Berry
    Ability: Oblivious
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
    Bold Nature
    - Slack Off
    - Recycle
    - Block
    - Heal Pulse
    Of course, this is unacceptable in competitive play, so the Leppa Berry+Recycle and Leppa Berry+Harvest combo was banned by Smogon, even in Anything Goes, the tier without bans. It's notable that Showdown disallows this combo on the same pokemon, but you can, for example, carry Recycle on one poke and Leppa Berry on another
    That being said, the ban is not perfect. There are still ways to cause this endless battles and I'll name the three I discovered. I would've posted this in the original EB clause thread, but it was no longer open for futher replies.

    1) Tricking a Leppa Berry onto your enemy, and then taking it back. Since Showdown won't see this as having Recycle+Leppa on the same pokemon, it will let you enter a battle. The problem was that Slowbro needs all four of his moves, so he couldn't afford having Trick. I thought of a way to use quite a different endless battle strategy with the Truant+Shadow Tag combo:
    Whimsicott @ Leppa Berry
    Ability: Prankster
    EVs: 248 HP / 8 SpD / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Switcheroo
    - Tailwind
    - Taunt
    - Encore
    Durant @ Eject Button
    Ability: Truant
    EVs: 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    - Entrainment

    Clavitelle (Gothitelle) @ Choice Scarf
    Ability: Shadow Tag
    - Protect
    - Trick
    - Recycle
    - Filler
    Give the leppa with Switcheroo with Whimsicott, die, give the enemy Truant with Durant. Now Gothitelle can TrickScarf the opponent and get the Recycle Leppa combo. Protect when the enemy can attack and use your random filler when Truant kicks in. Leppa will give you the PP you need, but you need to Recycle it each time you consume it.
    2) Tracing Harvest. This was quite easy to create, I knew that both Trevenant and Exeggcutor got Skill Swap, which could be given to oponents and that Gardevoir was the only Trace mon able to create endless battles.
    Trevenant @ Focus Sash
    Ability: Harvest
    - Skill Swap
    - Grudge

    Gardevoir @ Leppa Berry
    Ability: Trace
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
    Bold Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Heal Pulse
    - Mean Look
    - Protect
    - Wish
    You can pull this off if you can trap a mon that can't 2HKO Gardevoir, but that's easier said than done. You need to remember not to get a move on 0 pp if you haven't Harvested your Leppa yet, as after harvesting, it won't activate.
    3) Making Assist pick Recycle. By far the hardest, as no mon that know Assist can cause an Endless Battle except for Smeargle, who is easy to 2HKO. If by some miracle you trap an opponent who can't status you or 2HKO, this is the set:
    Smeargle @ Leppa Berry
    Ability: Own Tempo
    EVs: 216 HP / 40 Def / 252 SpD
    Calm Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Assist
    - Mean Look
    - Milk Drink
    - Heal Pulse

    Delibird @ Focus Sash
    Ability: Hustle
    EVs: 248 HP / 8 SpD / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Destiny Bond
    - Recycle
    - Focus Punch/Counter
    Delibird so he can D-bond+Recycle (I just picked a random Recycle mon, there might be better options), Milk Drink as it is the best recovery move that Smeargle gets. Apart from that, just a common Funbro set that uses Assist instead of Recycle.
     
    Further evidence as to why Gothitelle is aids.

    I wouldn't even waste time doing this. It's a good way to get banned as demonstrated here:

    https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oususpecttest-228482623

    The mods should not have banned jewman!It was fun to watch!They could have gone upto 1000 moves and then forfeit!
    Also we should praise people like clavito and jewman for their awesome strategy which pisses everyone off!
     
    The mods should not have banned jewman!It was fun to watch!They could have gone upto 1000 moves and then forfeit!
    Also we should praise people like clavito and jewman for their awesome strategy which pisses everyone off!

    Uhhhhhhhhhh what?
     
    Ah yes. This is on page 890 and in paragraph 9 of chapter 86 of my soon to be best selling book "Why this gen fucking sucks". Its not in stores yet as its obviously not finished since it will take me about another 5 years to write up everything relevant to said title of book. Still you can place a pre order on it. Pm me for details. :)
     
    Fun fact: I actually posted this on the Smogon forums and the posts got deleted.
    I actually got banned from Showdown too after a mod saw me pulling this off.
    But I still get no news (since March) to what measures are going to be taken for these strategies to be banned, which is why I choose to try to spread this again.
    Anyone who can help with spreading these strats, please help.
     
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    Seems like keeping a leppa berry off a team where recycle and any form of trapping are present would be a fair solution; to those who would say "but what about 'x' team where all 3 of those are used and the intent is not to force an endless battle?" I would say sacrificing that one possible team build for supposedly the end of endless battles for everyone is a valid tradeoff.
     
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