Ash never kissed anyone!

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    This is NOT a shipping thread, do not treat it as such!

    Ash has only kissed Latias, to date. What are some rumors/lies you've seen about the Pokemon anime around the internet that make you want to facepalm? (The kiss lie always makes me want to.)
     
    List of all the girls Ash has kissed:
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    My main gripe is any sort of Ash and Y are destined to be together because of Z rumour or k information. Like shipping is fun and all, but don't start theorizing stuff like that, because Ash being oblivious is pretty integral to his character.

    The only sort of crush Ash has ever had was in Episode 009 with Giselle based on a photo, fact. Anyone else is just lies!
     
    Okay. Since I want something DIFFERENT from shipping...while not exactly a lie, more of a creepypasta, Ash's Coma Theory is one thing I always get aggravated about online. I've never believed this to be true, even if it were, it'd be very...childhood crushing? Probably. Anyway, I give this one a major facepalm.

    The kissing one is pretty obvious, and annoying. I'm getting tired of seeing that online.
     
    I don't like Coma/Dream theories... because their too flexible. Realistically you can make a dream/coma theory to explain weird universes such as adventure time, Steven universe, gravity falls.

    Why did this happen? dream... Why doesn't this character age? dream... Why is this world so weird? dream.

    Really I've grown to hate/Lost interest such theories because it really takes no effort. (Say that X happens to Y because its a dream)

    Also (Althought I hate this argument myself) the characters in pokemon are young... even younger than Japans average age of consent through all prefectures(Which is 14) son unless Ash/Satoshi and the other characters suddenly age 4 years we'll never see an event such as a kiss.

    PS. This is out of topic but is interesting...
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    Oh that reminds me, I recently heard a theory on a video where Ash (10) is currently old enough to legally marry and have kids.

    Had to rewind that part to make sure I did actually hear what I did and yes, that is what the video maker said. I was shocked that this was even a thing/theory. Like Delia is confirmed to be 29 so she had Ash when she was 18-19...but having kids at ten?! No, just no. Think about what you're saying on video.
     
    The coma theory is outdated because it was made during Gen IV, and the later gens contradicted the theory.

    Frozocrone said:
    Oh that reminds me, I recently heard a theory on a video where Ash (10) is currently old enough to legally marry and have kids.

    Had to rewind that part to make sure I did actually hear what I did and yes, that is what the video maker said. I was shocked that this was even a thing/theory. Like Delia is confirmed to be 29 so she had Ash when she was 18-19...but having kids at ten?! No, just no. Think about what you're saying on video.
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    It was from a novel written by one of the former producers of the anime (it also mentioned that Misty's sisters were wearing wigs).
     
    As tempting as it is to fall for the "Ash kissed (insert female companion here)" rumors (I even fell for the "Ash is going to kiss Misty on the final episode" back in 2002), after said rumors have been debunked over and over again, anybody should get it by now that Ash is never going to kiss any female traveling companion he has at any time. During the Advance Generation, the rumors of him kissing May got so wild that fake 'screenshots' of said kiss were put into circulation (I knew better by that time since I noticed something odd with that one picture that was making rounds at that time.)

    Speaking of Misty, I've gotten so sick of the rumors that circulate every once in awhile about her returning at some point 'soon'. As much of a Misty fan I was back in the day, I've long since accepted by now that she's never going to return.
     
    How about this: Cybernetics? Ash is not a real human in terms of you or I, but perhaps bio-genetically engineered to become the best machine possible in terms of successful defense and battling capabilities. Ash's father is not present and there is no concrete form or picture of the man, if there even is one. Being in the same town as Professor Oak further my suspicions. His mother has been seen in a photo with Oak and some one-off dude:
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    This could potentially explain his mother's age and the convenient lack of pregnancy photos. There are very few characters in the show that haven't aged along with Ash, and if anyone seemingly leaves this protective field they begin to age naturally once again. Ash has been brought back to life, through what could be seen as some kind of energy transference.

    Ash's innocence and oblivious nature can also be attributed to the lack of programmed responses to affection and to push it further Ash Ketchum is voiced by Veronica Taylor, a woman, effectively (in mine eye) making Ash Ketchum sexless with no gender. Or... you know... I could be wrong. Robots... they don't smooch much. Just a theory I suppose, or is it? Watch the video to make sure!

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    You heard the man #Pokélluminati confirmed.
     
    JDJacket said:
    How about this: Cybernetics? Ash is not a real human in terms of you or I, but perhaps bio-genetically engineered to become the best machine possible in terms of successful defense and battling capabilities. Ash's father is not present and there is no concrete form or picture of the man, if there even is one. Being in the same town as Professor Oak further my suspicions. His mother has been seen in a photo with Oak and some one-off dude:
    Spoiler:


    This could potentially explain his mother's age and the convenient lack of pregnancy photos. There are very few characters in the show that haven't aged along with Ash, and if anyone seemingly leaves this protective field they begin to age naturally once again. Ash has been brought back to life, through what could be seen as some kind of energy transference.

    Ash's innocence and oblivious nature can also be attributed to the lack of programmed responses to affection and to push it further Ash Ketchum is voiced by Veronica Taylor, a woman, effectively (in mine eye) making Ash Ketchum sexless with no gender. Or... you know... I could be wrong. Robots... they don't smooch much. Just a theory I suppose, or is it? Watch the video to make sure!

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    You heard the man #Pokélluminati confirmed.
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    Interesting theories, but two things: The guy in the photo with Delia and Professor Oak is the father from the third movie. Also, yes Ash is voiced by female voiceover actors, but it is common in animation for young male characters to be voiced by women if they are not voiced by child actors. Bart Simpson and all of the boy Rugrats babies are just a few examples. Also, Ash is shown to feel pain even if he recovers soon after and cries on several occasions, and a robot wouldn't feel any pain or emotion.
     
    jjc927 said:
    Interesting theories, but two things: The guy in the photo with Delia and Professor Oak is the father from the third movie. Also, yes Ash is voiced by female voiceover actors, but it is common in animation for young male characters to be voiced by women if they are not voiced by child actors. Bart Simpson and all of the boy Rugrats babies are just a few examples. Also, Ash is shown to feel pain even if he recovers soon after and cries on several occasions, and a robot wouldn't feel any pain or emotion.
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    Ohohoho great job! An in depth pick-apart! Not all robots are crafted as industrious hunks of terror-metal, missile launcher-minigun toting, laser eye staring, chrome grinning, killing no-pain machine, however ohohoho! (not so much an issue so much as a fun little description). However, Spencer Hale is not Ash Ketchum's father as evident in the third film's explanation and if Hale were Ketchum's father that would mean that his parents had Ash out of wedlock and due to the plot of the third movie would result in him gaining a sister in Molly. I was partly joking at first, but I still think it's a sound theory.

    Here is a short list of robots that have shown themselves to cry and show other emotions in film, anime, science-fiction novels, and reality:

    Mars (Astro Boy)
    Simroid is a Japanese robot that can 'feel' pain during dental procedures
    Data, the USS Enterprise's android has a long range of emotion and has been shown to cry
    C-3PO is capable of feeling fear, irritation, surprise, and empathy
    Dreadnoughts are a fusion of Super-Human and Machine (bonus if you find me a picture)
    Chaos Dreadnoughts are driven insane through eons of un-sleep
    Binary Domain shows machines fully disguised as humans and some that are capable of pseudo-birth
    Metal Gear Rex and Ray both show similar reptilian qualities and roar
    Android 18 is capable of child birth, despite being unable to become human
    Actually, the entire RR Android line, including Android 8 show emotions
    Jack and Bo-Jack (Tekken) show certain tendencies to want to become human
    Clank shows a kind of intellectual side and capable of feeling lost without a family
    The entire line of Robots crafted by Dr. Light and Dr. Wily
    The entire reploid line in Mega-Man X
    The Reploids in Blade Runner feel fear, anger, joy, and dulled pain
    Orson Scott Card plays around with AI with murder capabilities
    Jealous machines such as AVA (Ex Maachina)
    Chappie is fully capable of learning and feeling angry and afraid
    Ultron is an angry piece of machinary
    Master Molds are capable of analytical thought
    Bastion, Legacy Virus, hate
    All of the Transformers
    Automata. Machines capable of self-repair and the desire to extend their functionality
    The World's End, androids/robots capable of mimicking human life
    EVA, a child machine capable of fooling its creator into thinking its human
    Several Robots in the Fallout universe are capable of personality capabilities
    John Henry Eden is our president
    Apparently, the Necrons feel the need to wage petty wars and in fighting amongst themselves
    The android in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is sarcastic...
     
    I know he wasn't revealed to be Ash's father, I couldn't recall Molly's name at the time. So yes, androids/robots can show and have emotions. Ash being sex/genderless because he's voiced by a female was still a real stretch.
     
    It's just an observation. It's the same kind of idea as Frieza's English voice. Frieza was always a male in Japan, but Frieza has been voiced by both male and female voice actors, however Ash has always been voiced by a female voice actress, both in the original Japanese and English dub. Just something I found interesting. Regardless whether or not Ash's voice acter's sex means anything or not, Ash still appears neutral and kind of a distant character with very little mission plot other than to become the best. Single minded programming, that. And what of Gary and everyone else that seems to age or change throughout the series? It's only a theory and a plausible explanation as to why this is. Besides "Ash is a robot! Ash is a goddamn robot!" is one of my most favorite reveals of all time in cinematic history.
     
    I have a theory that Ash is actually a time lord and he's in a dimension where no one ever ages... He also dies off-screen before the start of each season and regenerates, that's why he's completely different each time :D

    I.e. on the Sun and Moon he looks different, and how BW Ash/Satoshi sucks beyond compare.
     
    Pinkie-Dawn said:
    It wasn't shown on-screen, so we don't actually know they actually kissed.
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    I think it is pretty damn obvious that Ash and Serena kissed. And I mean REALLY DAMN obvious.

    I mean it is impossible to say they didn't. Just look at Pikachu, Clemont, and Bonnie. You really can't say they didn't kiss. It is impossible and STRONGLY implied. The only reason they didn't show it is because it is aimed at younger kids. Very much the reason the censored Robin and Starfire's kiss in Teen Titans Go.

    They did the same thing in Legend of Korra. They censored it because it wasn't 'appropriate' And even though they didn't show it, it was obvious.


    Honestly if you say they didn't kiss.... I am not sure what to think. Why in the world would they censor it otherwise? Everyone was blushing. Ash was in shock. They showed it in pink light. She was on her tippy toes for a few seconds and slowly got drug apart by the stairs. Can you really say they didn't? I mean seriously?

    You can say all you want they didn't. But they did. There is no reason otherwise they would censor it.
     
    IcyIce said:
    I think it is pretty damn obvious that Ash and Serena kissed. And I mean REALLY DAMN obvious.

    I mean it is impossible to say they didn't. Just look at Pikachu, Clemont, and Bonnie. You really can't say they didn't kiss. It is impossible and STRONGLY implied. The only reason they didn't show it is because it is aimed at younger kids. Very much the reason the censored Robin and Starfire's kiss in Teen Titans Go.

    They did the same thing in Legend of Korra. They censored it because it wasn't 'appropriate' And even though they didn't show it, it was obvious.


    Honestly if you say they didn't kiss.... I am not sure what to think. Why in the world would they censor it otherwise? Everyone was blushing. Ash was in shock. They showed it in pink light. She was on her tippy toes for a few seconds and slowly got drug apart by the stairs. Can you really say they didn't? I mean seriously?

    You can say all you want they didn't. But they did. There is no reason otherwise they would censor it.
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    My only reasoning for it to be censored is to allow the audience to bring their own interpretation on what Serena did to Ash, because remember, romance has no place in the Pokémon anime according one of its former producers, so the chances of it being a kiss are slim. It's the same reason why in the Japanese version of Sonic X, during its season two finale, Sonic's conversation with Amy was muted to leave the fans to bring their own interpretation if whether or not Sonic did confess his love for Amy.
     
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