Arcanine..... Legendary?...

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    Wow I'm starting a thread in the Pokemon forums. XD

    Anyway, Arcanine (no not me XD) is a "Legendary" Pokemon on the Pok?Dex. Why? Why does it's stats come close to other Legendary Pokemon (I'm guessing on this one because I read it somewhere)? Why does Growlithe look sort of like it was made after Arcanine was (as in it's looks)? Why is Arcanine on that wall block thing on the second ep of Pokemon (along with Articuno, Zapdos, and Ho-oh)?
    I'm sure all of you that seen the ep or played the games asked questions like these. So, your thoughts on the Pokemon, Arcanine.
     
    I have actually always wondered why they classified it as a legendary but I never questioned it. But I think that they don't mean it as legendary in the same way as the brids/dogs/mews. I don't know how to expalin it well though XD
     
    No. It's easy to obtain (Fire Stone, question mark?), which completely undermines the meaning of being legendary.
     
    Could it mean legendary as in events? its speed is legendary or how rare they are to see in the wild? (anime)

    I remeber hearing about Arcanine being legendary because of it's beautiful appearance.

    I havent met to many people who actually use a arcanine.
     
    Well, is Arcanine a legendary? (Its long but read for an answer)

    In terms of rarity yes there never seen in the wild but they are easy to get as all you have to do is capture a Growlithe then evolve it at your leisure with a Fire Stone. So though never seen in the wild it is not rare as its easily obtainable if you have the necessary ingrediants.

    In terms of power and what not it does come close to the Legendaries.

    But the reason the whole legendary status has been put on this Pok?mon is because of the text on it in the Pok?dex of course. In Yellow, Gold, Crystal and Fire Red's description it has been given ancient indicators but Arcanine is not a legendary in the terms of the kind of legendaries that Zapdos and the rest are.

    Arcanine is what you call a Pok?mon through its ability and majestic looks has become a legend in the mythos of the Pok?mon world. As clearly stated in the text about it in certain Pok?dex text Arcanine is a Pok?mon described in China's legends therefore making it have the title of legendary because of this.

    But Arcanine is not a legendary as legendaries are one of a kind and Arcanine does not fall under that category, people have often thought Arcanine is legendary due to misinterpreting the Pok?dex text it was given. Arcanine simply is one of the more older Pok?mon in the world of Pok?mon and is so old in fact legends have described its beauty and power.

    I think the reason the makers of the games have given it such near legendary power was to play more on the whole legendary title given to it because think about it, if they took the time to say its in Chinese legends they obviously wouldn't make it a weakling as it would be a bit of a cruel joke to see the text about how its in legends then realizing it sucks.

    The only thing legendary about Arcanine is its power, majestic beauty and that is has been around long enough to be described in Chinese Legends in the world of Pok?mon. Though not one of the legendaries it is still should be considered a legendary among all the non-legendary Pok?mon.

    And I feel the reason it is not a catchable Pok?mon is to further maintain its legendary status though I do wish they make them catchable as it be cool to catch one in the wild. Maybe in the future games they could make them one of a kind in the games and hard to catch but this inturn would further people's thinking it is a true legendary therefore they should probably not do it as its not a true legendary.


    Well, I hope that what I've said has stopped people in thinking that Arcanine is one of the legendaries as though it may be mighty in its own right no matter how you look at it Arcanine is not one of the legendaries and that is what this thread it about after all.

    But I do still give it props as being a legendary among the non-legendaries, if you were to look at the legendaries as god's, normal Pok?mon as say humans then think of Arcanine as falling into the demi-god category.

    As for a theory of why its so powerful, I suspect that since Arcanine therefore Growlithe as well has existed for at least hundreds of years in the world of Pok?mon to be in Chinese legends its power is due to just that because with each new generation of Growlithe that came each became stronger and stronger so each new generation produced more powerful versions. Therefore since Growlithe/Arcanine have existed hundred and hundreds of years they have had more years and more generations than other normal Pok?mon which is why there so strong.


     
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    Psychic Mew...you can still buy evolution stones in towns in the new games. Lmao.

    Phunboy, I agree with most of what you said, but I have a couple of things to talk about, contradcting what you've just said. Not offensive, but just my opinion.

    I agree that it is not one of the legendaries, but you've got to admi, it's stats are like that. My ideas on Arcanine is that when making the game, they didn't want to have too many legendaries (Articuno, Zapdos, Moltress, Mewtwo...and this is without any cheat codes...).

    However, in the anime, he is declared as a legendary, because legendary Pok?mon in the anime are not once in a life time opportunity, with only one of each species. Both Dragonite, and Arcanine are described as legendary in the snime, but not in the game...
     
    Yes, and in the anime there can be more than one of some select Legendaries, like Lugia. It's a Full-fledged legendary, yet there are 3. The one in the Orange Islands, the One in the Whirl Islands, and the Whirl Island one's Kid.

    Although, no full-fledged legendary pokemon were ever cought in the anime either, yet Gary has an Arcanine. Unless you count Mewtwo's captivity in his 2 movies for a little bit of each of them, as with the Baby Lugia in the Whirl Islands, and other TR attempts which ultimately failed...
     
    The "legendary" aspect of Arcanine always alternately confused and amused me. It was fun to list it as a legendary and see the looks on people's faces.
     
    Arcanine said:
    Wow I'm starting a thread in the Pokemon forums. XD

    Anyway, Arcanine (no not me XD) is a "Legendary" Pokemon on the Pok?Dex. Why? Why does it's stats come close to other Legendary Pokemon (I'm guessing on this one because I read it somewhere)? Why does Growlithe look sort of like it was made after Arcanine was (as in it's looks)? Why is Arcanine on that wall block thing on the second ep of Pokemon (along with Articuno, Zapdos, and Ho-oh)?
    I'm sure all of you that seen the ep or played the games asked questions like these. So, your thoughts on the Pokemon, Arcanine.
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    I wondered that myself when I saw it on a pokemon card. It said legendary on it. I think Wobboffet is technically a legendary pokemon to. XD
     
    Deathspector said:
    However, in the anime, he is declared as a legendary, because legendary Pok?mon in the anime are not once in a life time opportunity, with only one of each species. Both Dragonite, and Arcanine are described as legendary in the snime, but not in the game...
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    It don't matter what is in the Anime as its the games that matter which is why I said legendaries are one of a kind because in the games they are one of a kind.

    I think what I have said has finally explained why Arcanine is thought to be a legendary.

    To me there are 4 types of Pok?mon, there are normal, ancient like Kabuto, legendary and then there are near legendary and near legendary is the category Arcanine falls into. Arcanine is a powerful Pok?mon as I said before but you can't call him a legendary due to the fact it doesn't meet the criteria that all legendary meet in the games where it counts as that's where you can catch Pok?mon afterall.
     
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    I think Arcanine has the legendary look, maybe not the stats. But i dont normally class it as a legendary.
     
    I don't think he is "Legendary." I think he is an older Pokemon, making him somewhat legendary, but no really "Legendary." Actually, I think I'm just confusing myself. :confused:
     
    True, and if you think about it most of the legenaries, if not all, do not have a previous evolution stage.
     
    pokEMOn UseR said:
    True, and if you think about it most of the legenaries, if not all, do not have a previous evolution stage.
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    That's a good point, and Legendarys can't breed, Arcanine can.
     
    How would you classify a legendary? Stats? Becuase none of the Rigi's really have outstanding stats.
     
    pokEMOn UseR said:
    Its just another unsolved pokemon mystery ^^_,
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    No its not as I have already answered why its considered legendary therefore solved the mystery and the only reason people think Arcanine is a legendary is due to them misinterpreting the Pok?dex info about it.

    Arcanine is simply apart of a Pok?mon species that has been around long enough to be recorded in some legends, it is not a legendary.
    Crosman said:
    How would you classify a legendary?
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    A legendary is a Pok?mon that is one of a kind in the games, to get one is considered a side quest and there harder to capture than any other wild Pok?mon, they start off at a high level when compared to most wild Pok?mon and of course they can't breed as there is only one of them and in most cases to catch one requires a team of Pok?mon unless of course you thoroughly trained one Pok?mon. Lastly there are legends about them unlike other Pok?mon with the exception of Arcanine of course and most legendary for the most part have the highest stats in the game.
     
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    Arcanine said:
    Why does it's stats come close to other Legendary Pokemon
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    WTF? Arcanine has dire stats in all areas but Attack and Sp. Attack, and it's movepool is too horrible to support these. Yeah, I know all Stone evos have bad movepools, but Arcanine's is simply phenominal. Did you know Howl is standard on it in the metagame?
    Heh. Arcanine is by no means a legendary, but people seem to worship it like one for some reason. It's pretty bad though.
    Same with Charizard: that thing is actually a terrible battler. It has awkwardly-placed stats, lousy typing, and a movepool thta's almost as bad as Arcanine and Pidegeot, yet it's worshipped to sickening extents by countless n00bs purley because it's an ''00ber-kewl dragon'' and because the anime makes it look like a God. In reality, irt's the worst of the starters, and a Luvdisc could probably kill it.
    Sorry for getting off topic, there.
     
    I totally forgot about this thread. XD

    This is what I think of Arcanine. (Also not short)

    I know Arcanine is a mythological dog to the people of China. But I don't think that's the reason why it's "legendary". I just don't think Arcanine is just a tip of the hat off to the Chinese people on that one thing. I mean Gyarados is a Chinese Dragon (maybe one of the closest other then Rayquaza) but it's not legendary. Or Ninetales it's a Kitsune to the different races. Or Xatu to the Indians of America. Or Lapras, it's like the Loch Ness monster. Or Magikarp, it's the Japanese lucky fish (or something like that). And so on. Pokemon has a lot of Pokemon that's tied to different nationalities around the world.
    So to me that whole "Arcanine is legendary because it's a legendary dog to the Chinese people" is out the window.

    Here is what I think. Arcanine started out as a legendary Pokemon but was taken out, and Growlithe added for its Pre Evo. Here in the States the show came out before the games. It might have been that way in Japan as well. If so then it just backs up what I'm talking about. That wall slab on the second ep might have been a picture of the old Pokemon way. Look at the opening of the show (first season), you don't see Moltres, yet you see Articuno and Zapdos and Arcanine before them two (and yes I know Rapidash is in there too). What if Arcanine was the legendary Pokemon of fire yet they took it out because it wasn't a bird at the last minute (that's why it's on the wall in the second ep, they made the show before getting everything set down in stone)? When you think of snow or lightning you think of sky. But fire/lava is from the ground (you don't see much fire falling from the sky). So what if that's why Arcanine might started out as a legendary (that's why you see it in the opening, it's on the ground)? Arcanine was fire and lava/fire came from the ground, not the sky. But later they changed it due to the other two being birds so they went with the whole legendary birds thing. It's on the wall slab (no Moltres). It's on the Pokemon opening (no Moltres). They made and went with Moltres to replace Arcy. But they put "Legendary" as Arcanine's title just to say "That's what it once was".

    And Arcanine has been in the hands of a Gym Leader or Rival from every game series. (Don't quote me on this next line because I haven't looked it up) as as far as I know, Arcanine is the only Pokemon (discounting Growlithe because it's pre Arcy) is the only Pokemon that's been a Rival, Gym, or Elite 4 Pokemon on every series. Sure it might be nothing, but still.

    I just think there's more behind the legendary title other then just a title or a "here's to you China". I do think Arcanine was a legendary Pokemon when they first started.




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