Ampharos

[Ayano Katagiri]

I currently have an Ampharos at Lv 47 on Emerald that I want to train up but am unsure of what moves to give it. So here it is now:

Thunderbolt
Fire Punch
Cotton Spore
Light Screen

So what should I teach it/What are the best moves for it???

Thanks, !!**Alex**!! :chu:

 

[shanecdavis]

Ampharos is under-rated.

Ampharos @ Leftovers
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Thunder Wave/Reflect/Light Screen
- Thunderbolt

 

[Lord Mike]

Fire Punch possibly if you have access to it at Battle Frontier.

 

[rekt]

Ice Punch is better, to cover its Salamence weak. But Fire Punch works to cover its Metagross weak.

Focus Punch
Thunderbolt
Ice Punch/Fire Punch
Reflect

 

[Ayano Katagiri]

Fire Punch possibly if you have access to it at Battle Frontier.

yea I have access to BF and already have Fire Punch

rekt: I tried to teach it Ice Punch and it says not compatible so thats a no go

!!**Alex**!! :chu:

 

[Lapras1016]

Have you tried a Thunderdancer moveset?

Thunder
Rain Dance
Fire Punch (don't use it in Rain Dance!)
POSSIBLY Brick Break or Iron Tail

I'm not much of an Amphy user in RSE/FRLG so I really don't know... Bleah.

 

[Alter Ego]

Lapras1016, rekt, if you don't know what you're doing (Which you obviously don't in this case, since Lapras1016 suggested a fire move with Rain Dance and rekt offered a move which Ampharos can't learn <.<) then don't post moveset suggestions. Thunderdance Amphy sucks, bad, as do Thunderdancers in general. I have to disagree with Shane a bit too, though. A more ingame-friendly Amphy would be:

Thunderbolt
Fire Punch
Thunder Wave/Light Screen
Rest

Subpunching ingame is kind of lol, especially since Blissey, Miltank, Snorlax, and Tyranitar (The ones who Focus Punch helps most against) only appear on a few occasions in the Battle Frontier and FR/LG Battle Tower, and if you plan on challenging either of those there are loads of better pokémon out there.

 

[rekt]

Lapras1016, rekt, if you don't know what you're doing (Which you obviously don't in this case, since Lapras1016 suggested a fire move with Rain Dance and rekt offered a move which Ampharos can't learn <.<) then don't post moveset suggestions. Thunderdance Amphy sucks, bad, as do Thunderdancers in general. I have to disagree with Shane a bit too, though. A more ingame-friendly Amphy would be

Are you kidding me. The Topic Creator asked for the best moveset. Now, she might have acsess to nothing, or everything. All I did was give the best Moveset, that Ampharos has to offer. Maybe try competitive battling sometime and I will show you that competitive is different than ingame. Also, i'm sorry about the Ice Punch part, I am used to AA's Mod Server, where Ampharos can learn Ice Punch.

Lapras1016 on the other hand, doesn't know what he is talking about. ThunderDancing is terrible anyways, and with something that is as slow as Ampharos, it is even worse.

 

[Lord Mike]

Ice Punch is better, to cover its Salamence weak. But Fire Punch works to cover its Metagross weak.

Focus Punch
Thunderbolt
Ice Punch/Fire Punch
Reflect

Um, sorry to nurst you bubble, but AMPHAROUS CAN'T LEARN ICE PUNCH </duh duh>

 

[Alter Ego]

All I did was give the best Moveset, that Ampharos has to offer.

No, that's what Shane did. You offered a modded (And thus illegal) moveset which can't be used in a GBA game without resorting to Gameshark or similar programs. Also, that set fails because Focus Punch there relies purely on prediction, and I fail to see why anyone would send in a Focus Punch weak when subpunch Amphy is common as mud. Anyways, cleric Amphy still tends to be better competitively than any of F-Punch whores.

Maybe try competitive battling sometime and I will show you that competitive is different than ingame.

Maybe you should take a break from hanging around suspect mod servers with distorted movepools and do some real competitive battling on Netbattle servers which play with the actual pokémon instead of trumped up modfreaks. If you did, you might also find me...as I have been Netbattling for about two years now. And yes, I know that ingame is different from competitive, but Alex asked for the best moveset for an ingame Ampharos, not a competitive (Let alone hacked) one. You should provide what the thread asks for, not what you consider to be "T3H M057 1337 AMPHY EVA 111oneoneone!!!" (A build which seems to rely quite heavily on your opponent being a clueless N00B by the way), and certain sets that work competitively aren't necessarily the best ingame. The concept of 'best' is subjective, is that such a hard idea to grasp?

Also, i'm sorry about the Ice Punch part, I am used to AA's Mod Server, where Ampharos can learn Ice Punch.

Like I said, if you don't know the pokémon your rating (Heck, you didn't even know its real learnset) then don't comment on the thread, simple as that. xP

 

[Ayano Katagiri]

Subpunching ingame is kind of lol, especially since Blissey, Miltank, Snorlax, and Tyranitar (The ones who Focus Punch helps most against) only appear on a few occasions in the Battle Frontier and FR/LG Battle Tower, and if you plan on challenging either of those there are loads of better pokémon out there.

Yes I know there are better Pokemon than Amphy to challenge the BF with but I have a different set of Pokemon for BF. I just felt like having an Ampharos in my party.

And thanks for everyone's help even if sometimes it doesn't work. I think I know what to put on Ampharos now.

Ampharos is under-rated.

Ampharos @ Leftovers
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Thunder Wave/Reflect/Light Screen
- Thunderbolt

Oh and by the way, where can you teach Substitute on Emerald? Is it in BF? or is it trading to FR/LG because I need it for another Pokemon.

!!**Alex**!! *image removed*

 

[shanecdavis]

I prefer Focus Punch over Fire Punch because it makes Ampharos more versatile. Competitively I believe Fire Punch is more effective, but this is in-game and with the AI using mathmatic figures to calculate what move to use, and Amph's defenses/HP, I prefer the SubPunch combo to the elemental punch. There are a lot more Normal-types than Steel-types in-game.

As for Substitute in Emerald, you will find the Move Tutor at the top of the Lilycove Department Store. That is why I start my Emerald cart over so frequently. Getting multiple Subs rocks.

 

[FullmetalxFangirl]

Have you tried a Thunderdancer moveset?

Thunder
Rain Dance
Fire Punch (don't use it in Rain Dance!)
POSSIBLY Brick Break or Iron Tail

I'm not much of an Amphy user in RSE/FRLG so I really don't know... Bleah.

Who uses fire punch with a thunderdancer ..? x_X You, obviously. O.o;; Don't do it. It's a waste of perfectly good attack power and variation. It's just not safe. As for brick break ... it smashes walls, but does little damage that is worth speaking of. Iron tail is not always your friend, especially after a single sand attack. I like offensive moves (because I am offensive ... ha ha, get it ..? Never mind. -.-"), so neither brick break nor iron tail are really my cup of tea. Pure fire power with decent accuracy is good ... Does anyone know if ampharos can learn lock on? It would go nicely with zap cannon ... if zap cannon was even in R/S/E. D:

 

[shanecdavis]

Not only does Ampharos not learn Lock On, but it doesn't learn Zap Cannon. That is a good thing. Low accuracy OHKO moves are crappy and wasting a turn with a move like Lock On is noobish. Ampharos can do more damage using Thunderbolt in two turns than it can using a move like LO one turn and then ZC the next turn.

 

[mikesta]

Ummm it cant learn fire punch...last time I checked Ampharos was a electr type...everybody should know that

 

[rekt]

Ummm it cant learn fire punch...last time I checked Ampharos was a electr type...everybody should know that

That doesn't mean it can't learn Fire Punch.

 

[Ayano Katagiri]

Ummm it cant learn fire punch...last time I checked Ampharos was a electr type...everybody should know that

It is an electric type but can learn fire punch like how Alakazam can also learn Fire Punch, Ice Punch and ThunderPunch.

 

[FullmetalxFangirl]

Not only does Ampharos not learn Lock On, but it doesn't learn Zap Cannon. That is a good thing. Low accuracy OHKO moves are crappy and wasting a turn with a move like Lock On is noobish. Ampharos can do more damage using Thunderbolt in two turns than it can using a move like LO one turn and then ZC the next turn.

PSHAW! I had an ampharos in Crystal, and it knew zap cannon. The upside of using zap cannon is that it paralyzes WITHOUT A DOUBT EVERY TURN IT HITS, which is why I favoured it a lot. In any case, I didn't say to teach lock on to ampharos, I was just wondering if it could learn it, and how awesome it would be if it could use it.

Obviously, you don't have the know-how to go back a few generations. Stuck on Serebii.net's 3-4th generation pokédex? Fufufu, my close-minded child. Have some respect and trust in me, hmm? My first game was gold, so I specialise in that generation.

[edit] Wow, 34? I suppose you've been playing since R/B/Y days. I would expect you of all people to know that ampharos can (could?) learn zap cannon. If ZC did appear in R/S/E, it would be able to learn it. Nintendo is my best friend. c:

*image removed* and here, if you keep in mind that TM06 used to be zap cannon.

And 'noobish' moves that do not do damage are not my style, in any case. Please remember that the definition for a 'noob' is someone who cheats. Teehee. Do you know how funny it is when noobs don't know what noobs are ..? Lawl. -.-

 

[Ascendancy]

Definetly get rid of cotton spore and light screen, they are not worth keeping. Maybe teach it some ground moves?

 

[shanecdavis]

PSHAW! I had an ampharos in Crystal, and it knew zap cannon. The upside of using zap cannon is that it paralyzes WITHOUT A DOUBT EVERY TURN IT HITS, which is why I favoured it a lot. In any case, I didn't say to teach lock on to ampharos, I was just wondering if it could learn it, and how awesome it would be if it could use it.

Mightly defensive, aren't we? Next time, please specify that you are referring to old versions of the game, otherwise you come off more noobish and you destroy your credibility before you even have a chance to establish it. It doesn't matter if ZC paralyzes EVERY TURN IT HITS. That doesn't dismiss the fact that it is only 50% accurate and therefore far inferior to Thunderbolt that 100% accurate. It wouldn't be awesome if it could learn LO either. LO is a complete waste of a move. For example, you use LO the first turn and then ZC the second. That is two turns that yield only one 100 AP hit. Me, on the other hand attack each of those turns with Thunderbolt. That is TWO 95 AP hits compared to your one. Now, even though your one attack could have paralyzed the opponent, my two attacks typically would have KO'ed the opponent and therefore didn't need the paralyzing effect. Not to mention the fact that 10% of the time that first hit would have paralyzed anyway.

Obviously, you don't have the know-how to go back a few generations. Stuck on Serebii.net's 3-4th generation pokédex? Fufufu, my close-minded child. Have some respect and trust in me, hmm? My first game was gold, so I specialise in that generation.

LOL It is funny that you try to insult me by insinuating that I am not a backward thinker, when you have proven you are not a forward thinker. I can be just as judgmental and tell you that you need to update your knowledge on the current metagame, but that would just be mean, so I won't.

[edit] Wow, 34? I suppose you've been playing since R/B/Y days. I would expect you of all people to know that ampharos can (could?) learn zap cannon. If ZC did appear in R/S/E, it would be able to learn it. Nintendo is my best friend. c:

Yes, my sons introduced me to Pokemon in the RBY days, and I did know that Ampharos could learn ZC back then. Thankfully, it cannot now. BTW - ZC does appear in RSE, and here is a list of the Pokes that unfortunately can learn it:

Deoxys
Forretress
Magnemite
Magneton
Nosepass
Pineco
Porygon
Porygon2
Regice
Regirock
Registeel
Smeargle

*image removed* and here, if you keep in mind that TM06 used to be zap cannon.

And 'noobish' moves that do not do damage are not my style, in any case. Please remember that the definition for a 'noob' is someone who cheats. Teehee. Do you know how funny it is when noobs don't know what noobs are ..? Lawl. -.-

If moves that don't do damage aren't your style, why would you want Ampharos to learn LO? Doesn't make much sense to me. A 'noob' is not limited to someone who cheats, it also includes certain people who don't take constructive criticism and continue to play the game incorrectly, i.e. using HM moves, putting more than one attacking move of the same type on a Poke, thinking Hyper Beam is a good move, liking low accuracy OHKO moves, etc. And your last statement is spot on, noobs that don't know what a noob is are quite funny.